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God help us all if this man becomes President.
I try to do that at The Giuliani Papers.
http://thegiulianipapers.typepad.com/the_giulia...
Someone among all those building and structural engineers, developers, fireman commanders, emergency response experts, surely would have believed that the WTC Towers could collapse as a result of sufficient destruction, and with that scenario in mind, the fire and police departments would have taken that into account before sending hundreds of rescuers into a severely damaged skyscraper.
How is it that NOBODY guessed that the Towers could come down, taking all the unsuspecting firemen and policemen unnecessarily to their deaths??
Rudy Giuliani should have conducted a thorough study of all the possible repercussions of another, more destructive, attack on the buildings.
And, of course, why Rudy (or the President's administration) couldn't have imagined that planes could be hijacked and used as bombs, is astonishing. Any group of school children could have produced such an idea!
And, he's an out nad out lier.
He is apart of the inside job!
Those towers where brought down by controlled demolition!
Wake up!
Your voices and films are so powerful - please take a fresh look at what really happened on 9-11. We are being lied to. This is still about the Emergency Command Center, which was destroyed when WTC 7 collapsed, but the building should never have collapsed. It wasn't hit by a jet. It had comparatively minor fires. It was damaged on the south face by WTC 1, but not in a way that would explain it collapsing straght down into it's own footprint in 6.8 seconds (about freefall speed). WTC 7 collapsing and the destruction of Rudy's bunker is the smoking gun of a very big lie perpetrated on America. Steel Framed buildings DO NOT collapse due to fire. It never happened before, and it hasn't happened since, but it happened three times on 9-11.
NIST hasn't explained the failure of WTC 7. FEMA hasn't explained it. The 9-11 Commission Report ignored it. It shouldn't have fallen on its own. Something happened here!
Please help the 9-11 Truth Movement. America needs your great voice and skills.
Thank you.
rescue workers not being equipped with face
masks to protect themselves from breathing
all of that particulate pollution.
Unbelieveable that the workers would be
expected to work in that environment without
face masks for breathing protection.
Anyone that works with Bush is not a person I would vote for ,,
He never told the truth about the towers or when the firefighters and dogs got sick either
So they do it bad.
There is a mountain of evidence. Wake up America!!!
If the Republicans actually nominate him, be afraid. Be very afraid.
The answer to that query would explain the illegal wire-taps, suspension of habeas corpus, banning of books like "America Deceived" from Amazon, detaining of dissenters in fences miles away from events, and multiple wars based on lies.
How can the gov't be innocent in 9/11 when we have caught it lying so many times (WACO, Ruby Ridge, no WMDs, USS Liberty, Operation Northwoods, Gulf of Tonkin, Pearl Harbor, ETC.)?
In law, if you determine a person lies ONCE during his testimony, it can be assumed that he lied in the remainder of his testimony. How come we do not hold the gov't to the same standard as it holds us to?
The gov't lied to us about Iraq and more Americans have died there than in 9/11. If the gov't lied about Iraq then why is everyone so reluctant to believe that the gov't lied about 9/11?
Final link (before Google Books bends to pressure and drops the title):
http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail....
IS THAT ENOUGH OR DO I HAVE TO MAKE FUN OF HIS CONSTANT CROSS DRESSING FIXATION?
That said, you also have to contend with peoples' direct experience of the day. When 9/11 happened, Giuliani was the most consistent, steady voice of leadership anywhere and people all over America watched him on television and felt--rightly or wrongly--that New York was in good hands. So your real job is to unpack the story and reveal what happened before and after--and Giuliani's culpability in the whole mess.
Ask him to explain why he had steel carted off under guard to be sold to china. Ask him to explain all those diagonal demolition cuts in the steel beams sticking out of the rubble.
I really suspect him to have been part of this "Inside Job"
Vote RON PAUL in 08. He's the only candidate of substance. The rest are just towing the party line.
"Twenty-four tons of steel from the World Trade Center have been recycled for the project. About seven tons were melted down and poured into a cast to make the bow section of the ship's hull. The steel has been treated with reverence by the ship builders and several workers have postponed retirements for the honor of working on the USS New York."
Anything that helps to puncture that mystique, I am in favor of. I will promote this film on my show and my blog, and I'll email it around.
Here's a link to my own attempt, albeit juvenile, to puncture the Rudy mystique. It's also available at Brave New Films.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=yp5R5u7XXJo
RUDY FOR PRESIDENT LETS FIX AMERICA....
There have been only two presidents in my lilfetime that were qualified for the job: Truman and Clinton. Clinton is hypocritically lambasted to this day for his sexual liason with an intern. Show me ONE politician that has not had a lady on the side. Even the miserable Carter said that he "lusted in his heart."
I think that there seems to be only one man running right now that seems to have the guts to do what needs to be done: Mike Gravel of Alaska. The rest of them should go take a vacation
After the attack, Guiliani failed to get crucial information about the toxins in the air & buildings in lower Manhattan to people who were conducting rescue/recovery efforts, and residents who lived in the effected area. As a result, many people are now sick or dead. There was also a failure by the city, state & federal agencies to provide workers & residents with proper safety gear.
In the years following 9/11, Rudy continued to fail us by endorsing the Bush Administration's inappropriate war on Iraq.
Incidentally, Rudy was a lousy mayor, who would have slunk off into obscurity had it not been for all the photo ops provided by 9/11.
After the attack, Guiliani failed to get crucial information about the toxins in the air & buildings in lower Manhattan to people who were conducting rescue/recovery efforts, and residents who lived in the effected area. As a result, many people are now sick or dead. There was also a failure by the city, state & federal agencies to provide workers & residents with proper safety gear.
In the years following 9/11, Rudy continued to fail us by endorsing the Bush Administration's inappropriate war on Iraq.
Incidentally, Rudy was a lousy mayor, who would have slunk off into obscurity had it not been for all the photo ops provided by 9/11. He wasn't terribly fit to run NYC and surely isn't fit to run our entire country!
Stop being tools of the Clinton machine. Rudy did a fine job. The Clinton White House made all the cuts, and Rudy had to work with what he had. You FUCKS stop defaming, and get jobs. Get Lives. You LAZY FUCKS!
Do we really need more of the same bad decision making and cronieism in the Whitehouse?
Plus... doesn't the Repubican Party represent itself as the Moral Center of America... how do Rudy's failed marriages and infidelities fit into that model?
You might achieve the America of your dreams, which will be a socialist country with no moral fiber. Our economy will dry up and we will not meet our obligations to seniors.
Socialism is a failed economic policy.
I think Mr. Rudy will be a great President!!
Signed; "an okie"
Any body care that more than 30,000,000 children voted for there favorite show on NICK. More than people voting on an election.
As a Network Engineer I heard that 2008 election will be electronic, therefore just as hackers hack WEB sites this to will be compromised.
Lets have a paper trail to confirm these results
RUDY for PRESIDENT 2008
His specialty as a prosecutor was low-value, high-publicity prosecutions. In other words, prospective targets for prosecution were selected by their potential media value. Real crime fightin was for suckers; Rudy was all about headlines.
His abhorrent behavior regarding 9/11 is simply a continuation of a well-established and long-running pattern. The man would throw his own family overboard for a headline. e already did that.
He refused to sign a pay raise for fire and police when he was leaving office after praising all their efforts of 9/11. He really shafted them!
I recommend to everybody to read "9/11 the Big Lie" and The Pentagate" written by Thierry Meyssan.
See the following web site: www.ink19.com
Do you think it was a coincidence that he had FEMA staked out nearby doing a fake exercise so they could move in quickly and
secure the area? And has anyone wondered if the command center was really a control center for detonating the explosives and/or controlling the planes that hit the towers?
The evidence was conveniently destroyed by a building collapse that does not have to be explained to us. Rudy is as much a murderer as the rest of them. Thanks for working to defeat his candidacy.
And the crony capitalism practiced by repugnicans is sure helping the masses of poor and disadvantaged. You crumbs like to talk about the bible & Jesus, maybe you should read the sermon on the mount!!!
Your days are numbered
It was intentionally demolished. Why? And when the hell did anyone have time to plant the detonations, and who were they???
That doesn't seem to bother Rudy the "Hero"
at all! Well, it does me!!
Did Neil Bush organize it?????
His recommendation of Bernie Kerik to Bush as top man in Homeland Security.
Rudy knew him better than anyone. Rudy knew he was a crook, a failure in Iraq security, a hopeless incompetent and an excellent partner to work with in getting security contracts for "Their" company.
Rudy was hoping for even bigger and better contracts with Bernie in charge, therefore, he was willing to put the nation's entire security in Bernie's hands.
Rudy was not a hero of 9-11. He was a victim of 9-11 and made the most of it. That is why he has earned the hate of the fire and police departments and all that have been interested in finding out the truth about him.
He made me ashamed my name is also Rudy.
Thanks for all you do to get information we sorely need because the mainstream media will not do it...they are also anxious to be part of the ruling class. Thanks again.
JERK! GET RID OF HIM
You wonder why nothing gets done, when we have clowns like the guy who designed this site spewing hatred and lies
Documented by the press.
(Apollonian, 6 Sep 07)
Gosh, but doesn't Giuliani necessarily go with co-conspirator, Larry Silverstein, MOSSAD agent, owner of the leases to WTC buildings, "property" which was essentially condemned for galvanic corrosion and asbestos contamination?--see WhatReallyHappened.com.
Silverstein thus reaped billions, literally, fm subsequent insurance settlement, for a cheap investment in condemned property--and that doesn't count the theft of a billion dollars worth of gold/silver bullion, and the infamous "put options" covered-up by FBI.
Giuliani should rather be arrested and indicted as co-conspirator, but naturally he's instead trumpeted by "Jews-media" (see Natall.com, "Who Rules America?" for expo/ref. on Jew media monopoly) as serious presidential contender.
After all, Giuliani saw to the removal/destruction of evidence against his Judeo-conspiratorial (see TheNewAmerican.com for expo/ref. on CFR-Bilderberg conspiracy) cohorts, didn't he?
CONCLUSION: Evidently Giuliani's co-conspirators feel safe as they have Rudy out running "interference," and catching any "flak" which might otherwise and eventually be coming their way. Giuliani is simply the perfect and most complete 9-11 "cut-out"--after G.W. Bush himself. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian
and 9/11 was not an inside job. gt on with your miserable lives people.
Please contact me, I'm in New York City.
Sandra J. Reines, M.D.
Columbia University Station
#250687
New York, N.Y. 10025
(Use registered mail, request a return
receipt.)
LOL = GET A LIFE YOU LOSERS
Rudy has been more interested in making money from his supposed 911 leadership by selling security services and anthrax clean-up consulting and going on the speaking tour than helping NYC with its recovery.
I submit that Rudy is just using 911 to position himself as a 911 hero and great leader of the rescue/recovery efforts that followed in order to use this as a spring board for his Presidential asperations. The question is, will Americans and Republicans be stupid enough to believe him and follow him blindly like they have George Bush? Or, will they look deeper at the evidence of this flawed, power hungry individual and reject his claim as the great 911 leader and his attempt to parlay this into a Presidency?
Thanks for showing us some of his true colors...keep the good work up!
Perhaps you can do a sequel on Guliani's extra-marital relationships leading up to his divorces...he and Gingrich have a lot in common....they're both HYPOCRITS!
Rudy has been more interested in making money from his supposed 911 leadership by selling security services and anthrax clean-up consulting and going on the speaking tour than helping NYC with its recovery.
I submit that Rudy is just using 911 to position himself as a 911 hero and great leader of the rescue/recovery efforts that followed in order to use this as a spring board for his Presidential asperations. The question is, will Americans and Republicans be stupid enough to believe him and follow him blindly like they have George Bush? Or, will they look deeper at the evidence of this flawed, power hungry individual and reject his claim as the great 911 leader and his attempt to parlay this into a Presidency?
Thanks for showing us some of his true colors...keep the good work up!
Perhaps you can do a sequel on Guliani's extra-marital relationships leading up to his divorces...he and Gingrich have a lot in common....they're both HYPOCRITS!
Seems that Mayor Giuliani excluded emergency managers opinions working in emergency management, which in New York City's case proved to be critical.
President Rudy Giuliani?
I'M NOT HAVING SEX IM JUST GETTING BLOWN.
Children lie and have oral sex early in life due to B. Clinton BS with Monika....go home hug your child and pray for a better day.
read the constitution: WE THE PEOPLE.....
NOT U the politians liar.
RUDY for PRESIDENT or ME. You choose.
You are a kook for believing your government's version of what happened. Grow up and learn to think for yourself you simpleton.
you get a life Tim, we support the constitution and reclaiming America, you seem to support another country - Amerika, home to commie bastards like yourself
in Iraq. Took them to Hungary, they learned
nothing but paid well and returned to Iraq
and never joined the Iraq police.600 defected. How about the Taser deal?
What about recommending Kerek to be head of Homeland Security. Can you imagine how much this carpetbagger would have made if Kerek was appointed?
You are too smart for me. Sorry I cannot compete with your superior intellect. I must bow down to your greatness.
In another time you could have done Stalin proud as you turned your parents in for 2nd guessing the state!
Joe
= rudy giuliani
On 9/10 he was the most despised mayor in the city's history, among city employees, of my aquaintance.
NYC law enforcement officer
(retired from 30 years service)
Favorable decision making after a recommendation has been provided is usually the result of other important and overriding issues not known or understood by the folks lower in the food chain. It is really sad to read the emotional outbursts made from one sided rhetoric. When biased information is published it's the readers job to get the facts and make the balance in forming an opinion. Sorry folks the Brooklyn Movie Maker doesn't understand what a balanced presentatoin is about. It's time to use the word OPINION in the singular.
Rudy's cancer has returned, he will not live to finish the campaign
2. Refused help to victims and rescue workers
3. Building 3, 4, 5 is proof of stragne strucures - has to be demolished in december
4. Guliani prevent photos & news from filming and pictures of steel parts, prevent from doing proper investigation, and sold
important proof so no one will ever see it.
5. this all show his involvments in PNAC project and he did not help New York people - just he help bad people who did this 911 WTC
6. His behavior is part of WTC Attack preparation & cover up Conspiracy, which was domestic republican made operation; a Mass Murder and Crime against Human Kind, and as such shall never, ever be forgoten or legaly terminated crime, like a Nazi or concentration camp mass murders.
7. 911 WTC is crime with premeditation done for weeks with purpose to kill 1000' of USA people - to kill Americans by Americans.
8. Those 500 people who did cabling & drilling and put explosives knew of huge future casualties, and they are today among us; I'm sure they are getting killed every day to eliminate witess - by PNAC people who invented it. Many others are killed every day to cover all who seen anything about this
There is a BIG difference between Greenwald and FOX news. Greenwald gets the facts and the people who work on his team go hard and strong to make sure that they get it right instead of using certain propaganda terms over and over to spread deceit. Read A. Huxley's Brave New world Revisited. It talks about the use of words to change meanings and how you can make anyone look right or wrong by mere vocabulary. Also,Greenwald may only be using the attack portion of this doc to get his message across. Have you seen the whole film and all four parts?? EVen if it does not give the good, which I agree there are a few, very few things that he has done... how do you equate respect only for those who speak of both pros and cons when the message we are trying to send is WHY he would not make a good president? Also, when has FOX news ever given the PROS of ... Hillary or Bill or any Democrat for that matter? I have yet to see anyone like Bill O sit and chat about the good and bad of any Democrat... they just sit and berate them.
"No one will ever go broke underestimating the stupidity of the American Public"
P.T.Barnum
I'd like to respect your opinions, but I don't think you're aware of all the facts. On the day of 9/11 NORAD was conducting WAR GAMES simulating HIGHJACKED AIRPLANES being used to attack high profile US targets, and yet Bush and Condi Rice claimed after 9/11 that there was no way anyone could ever imagine people using airplanes to crash into buildings. Do a little research. Find out how many countries warned America about 9/11 before it happened, find out about the Presidential Daily Briefing given to Bush in August of 2001 entitled "Bin Laden determined to attack inside the US." They could have prevented 9/11 from even occurring.
What does that have to do with Giuliani? He is a puppet and an opportunist who uses 9/11 throughout his whole campaign, acting as though it makes him a hero, while most of the rescuers and their families think he is anything but. Try doing some research into what happened on 9/11 beyond what you remember of what the mainstream media told you 6 years ago.
And by the way, questioning your government doesn't make you anti-American, its the job of every true patriot to question their gov't, for we are the 4th branch of it. This country is supposed to be ruled by the people, and if those officials we elect to represent us are acting against our will and doing things to knowingly put us in harm's way, it is they who are the traitors and it is our responsibility to hold them accountable.
Get a life...
No need, these are religious people that you are trying to educate. Facts just don't matter. They are as important as books and shit. If it wasn't said on Fox News by a Fox News Commentator than it shouldn't even be thought, never mind said... These turds are wired right into big brother, no independent thought whatsoever. If they haven't figured it out by now they probably aren't goint to...
smear campaigns it means one thing, they know that he will win.
Wrong, the command center had to go there so there would be a place to conduct a proper "occupied" building demolition.
Rich.He is a coward just like our country's leader at this time. Cant't wait for the elections.
We need men and women in our goverment that are honest and will help us out.Not these greedy folks we have in there now.
Get rid of the whole lot of them!!!!
Sameazel
two words... bernie kerik
Ole Giggliani was, as if by coincidence, was at ground zero during the Israeli Contracted Terror Drill Exorcise, aka "the tube bombings" in London.
When a face keeps showing up at the scene of the crime - we'ze gotz to ask, "Do this man know any limits".
911 - the most expensive air defense system money can buy - and during a anti terror exercise in NYC for the very type of attack the inside jobbers' gave us that day could NOT catch 2 fat Boeing air planes heading to NYC?
Giggliani should be hanging by his ankles next to his ex-second cousin wife getting a farewell spit bath from the proletariat, just as his buddy, Mussolini, got from his throngs of adoring fans.
It's all a lie - how can Giggliani even look at himself.
Murderer - that's all he is.
These people have got to pay.
Then the attack happened and he's this "superman", Any person that was Mayor of NYC would have done the same exact things he did under the circumstances.
He constantly uses the horror of that day for his own personal grandstanding. It makes me sick. Having lost both a relative and friends that day, it saddens me that the people of this country have made him this hero. He's really not. And if you vote for him you are a fool.
Then the attack happened and he's this "superman", Any person that was Mayor of NYC would have done the same exact things he did under the circumstances.
He constantly uses the horror of that day for his own personal grandstanding. It makes me sick. Having lost both a relative and friends that day, it saddens me that the people of this country have made him this hero. He's really not. And if you vote for him you are a fool.
keep inhaling the fumes, u fkin halfwit.
He's in on the PNAC.
single most divisive mayor elected in my adulthood He was unable to compromise or listen to other voices and educated opinions.
His simple ignorance in handling matters of
racial or other social arguments make him a
presidential candidate to be loathed. He's
untruthful and appears unable/unwilling to
change.
give me your PROOF, u fkin dimbulb
Evidence has been destroyed and body parts lay amongst the trash at Freshkills.
VOTE FOR THE UNBLAMMING IN 09
Draconian is the word i always used to describe him
Michael Stark former worker in the W>T>C>
This coming from the same group that assigns no accountability to Ray Nagin for his preparedness and response to what was an anticipated and predicted event. It gets even more pathetic when you look at how much money has been made available and what has been done with it by the liberal mayor and governor who are still in charge.
The more liberal 'theories' and core beliefs face a real crisis - like rebuilding a city like New Orleans, the more they are exposed as being impotent and just plain wrong.
It's also far too early to practice revisionist history when the depth and strength of Mayor Giuliani’s leadership is one of the most compelling memories the majority of people have of that tragic event.
has done and that is to hire cronies and give
our government $$ to these people for favors
for one another--not for the betterment of our Country or for the majority of our citizens--only for the rich to get filthy richer. This has to stop or America is going down. It's serious
What is Rudy's connection to ChoicePoint, GlobalOptions, SafirRosetti, and/or Bode Technology?
I know that Howard Safir is now CEO of Bode Technology, a sub of Global Options Group (also related to SafirRosetti) and formerly owned by ChoicePoint. It's my understanding that Rudy directed all of the WTC DNA testing to Bode. Did he get any benefit from this, or was he just favoring his pal, Howard Safir?
Similarly, I've heard rumors that Rudy directed that the scrap steel from the Twin Towers be recycled by company(ies) owned by people he was connected to. Is there anything to this? Again, did Rudy profit from the aftermath of 9/11?
I guess it takes a fascist to replace the current fascist.
Rudy Julianne was a sub-par governor during the 9/11 attacks. among his many missteps; allowing the police and fire departments to work opposite of one another, by having his command post in a twin tower and lying about it, spending more time at sporting events than at ground zero, will lying to the American public regarding his time spent actually helping in this monumental disaster. i do not understand how this man can run for president; he is too old, has had cancer, not to mention several wives (and since the republican platform is family values) what the hell is he espousing leaving 3 wives? this man has no business running for president. we need committed and honest people not liars who puff themselves up to the American public!
DESTROYING a CRIME SCENE by shipping the WTC steel of to Asia for melting!
A former federal prosecutor should know better!! And does know better!!
Rudy is in on the cover-up of 9/11 and the CONTROLLED DEMOLITIONS of bldgs 1,2, and 7!!
WTC 7: where the "unused" command bunker was -- a perfect perch to view and direct the attacks!
"emergency command center". Some of us have seen the videos that show that it was impossible for a 747 to have hit the Pentagon and left a small hole as well as the way in which the twin towers also fell inward as if explosives had been implanted in the "command center". "W" was determined to go to war with Iraq before the coup in 2000 and the "chids" in Florida caused Gore to step down. If this had occurred in any other civilized country people would have been in the streets rioting! What is wrong with Americans? Are we brainwashed? Stupid? Apathetic? Kept so busy working just trying to survive that we don't want to see the obvious in front of our faces? WAKE UP!
Who told you not to go to your command center in WTC 7?
When you set up your ad hock command center who told you, No Rudy you're still your still too close, move back even farther.
As if ALL the firefighters were brave enough to choose death whereas NONE of the police were.
Shameful, damning footage.
I'm a luddite, so someone please use this footage, stay on message, drive it to the hilt.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_N95H6ov-o
Guiliani is and always has been a cronie of george w bush. The two should be jailed for the course September 11th took, along with all their cronies.
are you are crazy cmon this feind helped do 911 like the rest of the military/bushes/saudis...........cmon wtc 7 falss down all by itself????? remember what was in wtc 7??? what i cant stand is the pats on the wrist that so many murderers like bush cheneu guiliani get ...n usually its not even a pat on the wrist our americam media is so complicit n in bed with the bush regime ..........how about the nine explosions people ?????????? what a coverup noone has the guts to call out the regime for its Rheichstag just like in hitlers time it will pass on till the day we see martial law--------------why hasnt anyone called Silverstein on his admittance to "pulling" wtc 7 ? what kind of fascist regime do we live in in the usa now?????
I am a native NYer. No longer live there but it's still my home and it bothers me no end to see this lying gasbag trying to tell everyone how superior he is....
Now, about Rudy. . . he's a globalist for sure. 9-11 was Cheney's manifested dream for another Pearl Harbor (which Roosevelt knew about well before the event). Rudy was in on it, whether or not the Globalists knew of the plot and helped it along, or just plain did it themselves. Why do you think he's leading in the polls and getting more money than the other candidates? Reward for a job well done by the Globalists. Face it, people, we only get to vote for whoever the elitist capitalists support, for both parties. Either way, Globalists get their choices in office.
Rudy's law firm in Houston (and we all know dubya's family owns Texas) is the sole legal counsel for Cintas, the Spanish company that is building the Trans-Texas Corridor for Mexico's truckers. He's selling out our country in many ways and getting rewarded for it with a shot at the Presidency. Good God, folks, 'conspiracy' is a politician's art. Wake up--human beings in power plot and conspire--read world history as far back as you care to go for proof. Americans are not immune to greed and corruption. We enable it, after all, by lapping up propaganda and what sounds nice and comfortable. It worked for Hitler, din't it. A vote for Rudy is a vote for a Globalist One World Government, and the death of America.
Hey Dems - What ya think about the news from N.J. today? www.cnn.com
since My 1975.
Seems the Idiot an Corupted "Italian Family Member" NYC Mayor was asked via USA Postal Card & E-Mail Pertaining: "Why not ask the true owners opinion and not your own ,lol"!
Also: to my informed belief ,seems those "so called" middle eastern terrorist hi-jacker were "probably" just trying to see
,"What if the King had to Hi-Jack one of his own Commercial Flights to get to Kings Persia,etc.{idiots an Criminal say ,iran,iraqi,saudi homo,uae,etc.,lol}.
Thus when the non-criminal intent persons of middle eastern appearence were "trying" to fly the plane ,"some particulr "USA" employee "manually overode" the Auto-Pilot functions{pentagon flight also}and purposely directed the plane into the building to ,1. murder any J.L.W. friendly people in the buildings at the time ,2. removing an privately owned building ,3. another crime against innocent society to wrongfully use intentional misshaps,etc. to
, in theory ,to overide the USA Citizens "Bill of Rights" {not the USA Governments "Constitutional Rights" ,ok?}...
Rudy's a sick little perverse idiot looking for authority ,money & and to{believe it or not}find "Good People" and steal their Rights ,Employee,Opportunities,etc.?
What a Stupid lil W.O.P." ,LOL
Like PA-PA Geno {old Genovese Familiy}
"Jeesshh.....that's all i got to say ,lol"
Silverstein and Guilani are in bed together!
Hopefully, our propaganda news outlets will continue promoting Comrade Hilliary!
There must have been athousand decisions to make that day. Certainly poor judgement was evident if he chose the wrong spot for the command center.
Oh yeah, you got us -- we hate the male new york fascist but we love the female new york fascist. Caught us with our pants down. Good job.
Hopefully, our propaganda news outlets will continue promoting Comrade Hilliary!"
Let me make this clear...
Fuck Guiliani.
Fuck Hillary.
The only difference between them is the artificial ones you construct inside your head.
I wonder if he's still backing up all of those corrupt cops who shot innocent men in the backs.
What's the truth you ask?
Liberals don't care about the truth. They want to change this country from what it was founded on and intended to be. They want to re-create truth to server their purpose.
And I would like to ask you something...
could you do it better than what did Guilliani?
I think it´s really something hard to cope...
Wouldn't surprise me one bit!
Where Giuliani should be investigated is in the relationship with Silverstein, the rental contracts, and the fund raiser that was an obvious quid pro quo.
Giuliani is a murderer. He is a murderer b/c he put money, fame, and politics above the lives of New York's finest and bravest. He is a murderer b/c he had the power, time, and money to improve the communication system and radios and didn't. Guiliani located the EMCC where it was a target, located on the 23rd floor where if elevators went out would marginalize the effectiveness of the EMCC for communications and command.
Giuliani is a murderer b/c he was complicit in WTC-7 being "pulled", complicit in stopping and starting and stopping and starting again rescue/recovery operations right up to the time all the gold was removed from the WTC basements. Then he stopped the recovery again. Giuliani is a murderer b/c he is engaged in a cover up evidenced by his sending the steel beams to Japan or to sink in the ocean before they could be inspected for signs of sabatoge or deliberate demolition.
I think his other failures may well be related, i.e., in preparation for the 9/11 demolitions, or for the purpose of distracting attention away from them.
Attack McCain - defend Obama - attack the President - attack the war
THAT DOES NOT SOUND LIKE AN INDEPENDANT TO ME
Ugly nerd a$$hole!!
He was in on the twin towers demise.
I understand that his lease of these buildings was only a few months old when the towers were hit.
very courious indeed.
Why don't you add an option to vote for the truth. HE NEVER INTENDED TO PROTECT OR HELP IN ANY WAY. HE IS ONE OF THE PURPS.
Holy bull monkeys what the hell are you talking about?
Do you still believe this "liberal media" myth. Look, the media bends over backwards and does every contortion to be as conservative as possible these days. They are lapdogs for Bush, support the war, defame the protestors, ignore Israel, demonize some dead guy named Osama, completely ignore ron paul, ignore leirbermann's israeli ties ...
look man ... reporters and investigators of the public sector should mis-trust authority, question it, find truth, and get to the bottom of things. It is the media's job to be jaded and cynical.
In a state controlled media system like that of Nazi Germany, the media's job is just to convince the people to go along with the governments misdeeds - ie, tony snow.
Man ... wake the hell up...
"Some other guy did it too" won't hold in court. You can't point the finger and say "Hey, I'm doing something wrong, but look over there! That guy is too! What about him?"
That is the logic of a 5 year old ... come on now ...
Thank you for your hard work.
From supporting back shooting trigger happy racist cops to pimping of the tragedy of 9/11, from his Vietnam draft dodging to his Iraq chicken hawk posturing, from his chauffeur turned commissioner to his girfriend(s) turned high muckety mucks.
9/11 was an inside job. I don't know if Rudy would have been trusted to be inside the loop or not but surely he knows now. He is complicit in the crime and he pimps off it to boot. Ugh...
"Source/Unity/Inner Peace", life has so little value, that fellow beings become disposable tools to do the dirty work. Utter fear & illusion are the primary motivators of these deplorable actions. Rudy's own children KNOW that "something" is severely disconnected about this entire picture. I pray that it's not too late to de-program them & make human beings out of these monsters again, if only for the sake of their innocent families. Until the SHEEPLE wake up & IMPEACH this greedy, terror-based DICKtatorship, we can look forward to many more lies, distractions & diversions. WHAT WILL IT TAKE TO WAKE UP??? We must set a CLEAR example for the next group coming in, that this covert corporate funded operation will no longer be tolerated! COMPLETE reform in ALL areas is MANDATORY IMMEDIATELY! DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH PEOPLE, read BETWEEN the lines & from several viewpoints! Forget about the MAINSTREAM media, it's owned by the criminals, how can it be trusted??? Become a citizen of PLANET EARTH & become honorable enough to stand for ONLY the highest good of ALL PEOPLE not just the elite few! PROMOTE PEACE, it's the bravest action you can take. Let's bring our precious brother's & sister's, children & partners HOME where they BELONG! We have PLENTY of clean up to do RIGHT HERE! We can still reestablish our HONOR with the rest of the world! WE MUST GO GREEN! REDUCE, REUSE & RECYCLE! We CAN join together & CREATE a LOVE-based system, but we MUST begin NOW!!!! REMOVE the veils of illusion & get our priorities straight! WAR CANNOT END WAR! IGNORANCE CANNOT END IGNORANCE! What we're doing now isn't working, WARS aren't working! FEAR isn't working! GREED will lead to DEMISE! What we fear we draw near! We can be REAL hero's & CHOOSE WISE POWER over PRIMATIVE BRUTE FORCE! The most highly intelligent & evolved societies CHOOSE LOVE-based actions, anything less is PURE ignorance. LET'S EVOLVE ALREADY!
Grow up, wake up, and get a grip on reality - websites like this belong right along with all the other bullshit conspiracy websites. Not everything can be explained by politics and pointing fingers.
The only thing this website accomplishes is to spit in the face of all the people that died that day or lost loved ones. Take your politics and shove them up your ass.
the left is using up all their attacks on rudy now, while the right is just sitting back and waiting for you people to nominate hillary, and the reaction to that by the right will make this site even more pathetic looking then it already is!!!
hillary is your best candidate hahahahahahahahahahahhahahahha
Have fun you crazy people!
When a drug dealer gets busted by a government agency, all of their assets are frozen, and they are sent to jail. Why then are the rich committing crimes against humanity, and no one even thinks to call their bluff?
I must congratulate your organization for giving the populace something to mull over and really think about the direction that the “Politricks,” are steering us in. After all, it’s the people that are behind the wheel; just too many of us are too busy fooling around with the radio.
All power to the people!
Hey, you're right. Rudy is presidential material.
Can any New Yorker rebut my comments?
What would the repug trolls say if Bill Clinton had done THAT?
Sheer brilliance - main stream truly is nothing but hot air.
But really, you didn't create the dominant paradigm - and you have no idea who did, you simply subscribe to it, ridicule those that don't, and refuse to ask questions.
I heard brown shirts and jack boots are on sale this time of year. Look into it!
You people scare me. Seriously.
To all of the trolls who think of this sissy-boy with a bully's mask as some kind of hero, Rudy bought 2-way radios for the NYC Firefighters that were about 10 years outdated. It wasn't his call to make, but he did. He knew best. These radios did not work inside of buildings. (Now, think about New York City for a moment. Buildings, right? Right. The whole city is buildings. To the firefighters, radios that don't let them talk with one another inside buildings are useless.) They did not let the Firefighters and Police talk with one another. Police and Firefighters NEED to communicate, during fires and especially during major emergencies. The Firefighters did not want them, and said so. The firefighter brass did not want them, and said so. Rudy knew best, of course, and gave the no-bid contract (in violation of city and state laws) to a campaign donor and bought the radios. The ones that the Firefighters and Police did not want. The ones that did not work properly. The ones with outdated technology and big price tags. On Sept. 11, the Firefighters inside the World Trade Center buildings had only these useless radios. They could not communicate with one another inside the buildings, and they could not communicate with the Police. Those inside could not hear their commanders telling them to get out because the buildings were going to collapse. They never heard the Police helicopters, circling overhead, telling them to get out because the buildings were going to collapse. They died carrying those expensive, worthless radios that Rudy bought from a campaign contributor. Blood money. Blood money. Who knows how many brave men and women died on that day because RUDY'S RADIOS DID NOT WORK?!?!?! I would say that their brave blood is on his hands, but I have too much respect for them, and too much contempt for Rudy..
So, Rudy... tell us about the radios, won't you? Tell us all about the radios.
I dont vote Republican so he is no problem, doesnt matter who gets the Republican nomination to me!
But worse of all is Rudy's stellar military record. What you say? Oh yeah, He also got FOUR deferments so he could finish college and complete law school. What a man. What a hero. Yeah. My ass.
Rudy was my mayor in 1993 for the first bombimg at the World Trade Center. From 1993 to 2001, he did fuckin' NOTHING!! He didn't fix the radios that we all knew were outdated and almost useless. He didn't address any terrorism related issues publically in one of the world's greatest potential terrorism targets. He didn't do anything about even building that bunker for years, then put it a few hundred feet away from the site of the '93 bombing. He is a FRAUD, and anyone defending him here deserves this man as their president.
There is no evidence of a conspiracy on 9/11. None. That's reality - it has nothing to do with being open-minded. There are things that happened on 9/11 that are debateable but there is nothing that points to even the possibility of a conspiracy.
I would challenge any 9/11 conspiracy theorist to bring one piece of evidence that didn't come from a website on the internet to my attention.
The truth is, the people that are accepting these conspiracies are closed-minded and simply following what other people are telling them without any proof beyond circumstantial. Those people are more interested in reaching their own political agendas than being open-minded or discovering truth.
When a government is forewarned about an attack and does nothing to prevent it, it's neglect. Plain and simple. And getting answers to our government's fraudulent activity, leading up to and following 9/11, is what those victims deserve.
If nobody was to expose the truth and let the Neocons get away with their Mega Million dollar scheme, that would be wrong.
And do not think for one damned minute someone will not kill you over money. Just because they are politicians, do not think they are not crooks and killers.
Anyone who cannot see the corruption in Capital Hill today is simply blind or in denial.
Wake the fuck up, because when the time comes, we will let you BushCo. supporters die in the streets when the shit hits the fan. We may even use you for cover from the cross fire!
He couldn't collect rational thoughts.
He was not an effective leader, and never has been.
G-d help us all if this guy gets in.
As for the often-cited drop in crime, people who have actually studied this (as opposed to some of the posters on this site) know that there was a similar drop in crime nationwide. There was also a much better and effective use of the Police, thanks to Chief William Bratton (whom Rudy fired because HE wanted the credit for everything good happening in NYC) and his strong right hand man, Jack Maple. There were more Police on the streets of NYC because Bill Clinton, along with balancing the Federal Budget, allocated funds for more than 100,000 more cops in America. (One of dozens of campaign promises he either met or exceeded... as opposed to the last few repug presidents, who have never kept a promise.) David Dinkins went after these funds and put them into the NYPD... but, of course, Rudy claimed that it was HE who got that funding.
Sure do!!!!
"the media bends over backwards and does every contortion to be as conservative as possible these days. They are lapdogs for Bush, support the war, defame the protestors,..."
You need to wake up. Can you support those statements? NO - I doubt it.
"...ignore Israel, demonize some dead guy named Osama, completely ignore ron paul, ignore leirbermann's israeli ties ..."
To ignore Israel would not be a conservative action, but a liberal one. Demonize a man that hides in a cave after killing over 3000 people - yeah, so! Ignore Leibermann - he was a Democrat, wasn't he?
"look man ... reporters and investigators of the public sector should mis-trust authority, question it, find truth, and get to the bottom of things. It is the media's job to be jaded and cynical.
In a state controlled media system like that of Nazi Germany, the media's job is just to convince the people to go along with the governments misdeeds - ie, tony snow."
Wrong again. Their job would be to report the truth, not attack a certain group.
In New York City, arrests for marijuana possession and use had risen from fewer than 2,000 in 1992 to more than 52,000 in 2000. Minor marijuana offenses came to comprise 15% of all arrests in the city of New York.
Possession of small amounts of marijuana had already been decriminalized by the laws of New York State, but Rudy decided to lock up smokers... even though most of them had no prior arrest record and were the same middle class people whom he claimed to be making the city safer for. Thousands of people were routinely busted on Friday night, held over the weekend in lockup, brought before a judge on Monday and sentenced to time served... even though the law would have allowed for the police to write an appearance ticket and a fine could have been paid. Yep... plenty of you pot-smoking hypocrites from the right would also have been locked up and now have an arrest record if you lived in NYC during Rudy's reign.
As for Rudy being such a good prosecutor: Yeah, good for getting headlines. The gangsters he had perpwalked on the 6 o'clock news were brought to court before solid cases had been built against them, and almost every one of them walked... until Rudy's sucessor acted like a real prosecutor and actually made a solid case. Even Republican judges were constantly criticizing the half-assed cases he had his underlings bring to court. The conviction rate of mobsters in the New York area more than tripled after Rudy left the prosecutor's job.
Rudy only cares about the money, power, and respect! How can people not see it! He is not for the people.
How can you call yourself a leader when you running away from a tragedy scene on national tv like ok, I am here and I have balls. now, I got to go fast!!!!!
He did absolutely nothing to prevent the disaster, and did nothing afterward to ensure it did not happen again. The entire 911 disaster has been covered up, whitewashed. I am totally surprised the firemen and policemen and their families are not going after Rudy's throat for using the deaths of their loved ones for political gain. Absolutely disgusting.
It was very obvious that Giuliani failed in his most basic
obligations after the 9/11 tragedy. Instead of remaining in New York to conduct much needed hands-on assistance and aid in direct physical and technical emergency situations, Giuliani flew to Phoenix, AZ on a chartered plane to attend a world series baseball game between the Yankees and Arizona Diamondbacks.
My heart ached as I watched him on TV stroll onto the field in Phoenix with Yankee manager, Joe Torre, just a short time after 9/11. It was unconscionable that Giuliani could flagrantly assume the media star role rather than keep vigil over the grave damages and urgent emergencies of 9/11 at the twin towers.
Guiliani's actions in this incident speak loud and clear..... indicating a complete disregard for the performance of duty. His words of denial and claims of virtue only add
credence to his guilt.
(signed)
Char Monahan
Chandler, AZ
It was very obvious that Giuliani failed in his most basic
obligations after the 9/11 tragedy. Instead of remaining in New York to conduct much needed hands-on assistance and aid in direct physical and technical emergency situations, Giuliani flew to Phoenix, AZ on a chartered plane to attend a world series baseball game between the Yankees and Arizona Diamondbacks.
My heart ached as I watched him on TV stroll onto the field in Phoenix with Yankee manager, Joe Torre, just a short time after 9/11. It was unconscionable that Giuliani could flagrantly assume the media star role rather than keep vigil over the grave damages and urgent emergencies of 9/11 at the twin towers.
Guiliani's actions in this incident speak loud and clear..... indicating a complete disregard for the performance of duty. His words of denial and claims of virtue only add
credence to his guilt.
(signed)
Char Monahan
Chandler, AZ
The federalist papers ought be enough here... hamilton and jefferson whined relentlessly about trying to come up with a system where what just happened, couldn't. It's a good read if you haven't done so.
even served coffee + donuts at the scene of a
fire. He's done NOTHING for his country.
Elect him mayor of New York.
He'd s s quitter, he left the Senate race against Hillary Clinton. And today, he is the wrong man to lead America.
He continues to spread his fear, hate and twisted vision our America.
I don't trust him. Most people don't trust him.
I would never vote for him.
And now we learn more truth about a man who will do or say almost anything to be President.
The way he laughed at the interviewer was the way he lies with a toothy grin and a twinkle in his eye.
could possibly become our next President!
Shame on you Rudy.
I read that he also used the luxurious office he had built at the center as a place to have trysts with his girlfriend - now wife. He may be a bigger narcissist than Bush, if that's possible.
Shame on you Rudy.
Brave New Films should stick to what they have done so well in the past, making powerful documentaries about matters important to all Americans. Instead it seems that they are trying to reinvent themselves as some kind of hollow partisan attack machine: Swift Boat Veterans for Hillary.
Brave New Films should remain true to their name and make a documentary which transcends that status quo. A documentary that will speak truth to power and force BOTH the republicans and the democrats to do the right thing, if only on one issue. There is no shortage of issues where both parties have failed the American people. What about immigration? What about domestic spying and privacy? What about the ongoing propaganda campaign to attack Iran? What about impeachment and restoring the constitutional checks and balances in Washington?
Brave New Films please live up to your name and your earlier legacy. Don't sink into vapid partisan politics and character assassination. You have the power to elevate the debate in this country above the content-free personality contest that it has become into something more meaningful. One day people should look back at this moment in time and know that Brave New Films made a difference, not by defaming one measly candidate, but by helping to define the national dialog.
Put money in front of safety. Especially when it came to the fire department.
What about the theory that a bunch of muslims "conspired" to bring down the towers. The mainline story is a theory of conspiring people, also known as a "conspiracy theory" ... stfu noob ...
I never did understand why Rudy was considered such a great hero for 911, other than he had the perfect "presence" for the occasion. Unfortunately, because I do not support him as politican, that presence, is a key ingredient to leadership. He did make America feel comforted, as if someone was in charge in New York.
Therefore, it was very interesting to hear the comments that Rudy was running out of town. If his actions were cowardice, and could be contrasted with a mayor who was brave in a comparable situation (is there one?) it could really bring the point home. He did a great job in the beauty contest, but it was all make up.
I happen to think he was part of it . .
Every facet of the media is corrupted by the regime. If newspeople in every area-- directors, producers, actors, journalists, reporters, etc. want to keep eating, they tow the line. Like most Americans raised in our capitalist society, they're afraid of losing what they've worked hard to make, even when they see what's really happening. They also like their freedom, and keeping their families safe.
One thing came from Nazi Germany that Globalists took to after WWII. It seems that IG Farben had developed a way to distribute quantities of a chemical to populations to lessen aggressiveness against authority in people, by inflicting brain damage. Russia used this chemical, too, in POW camps. What made it even better, was the fact that the chemical was a byproduct, a waste toxin, of aluminum manufacturing. We now drink it everyday in our water, because it supposedly reduces cavities in teeth, and makes money for capitalists. (http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/...).
I don't wonder, anymore, where the spirit of journalistic truth and the fervency of patriotism have gone, after reading this research. It's all part of the plan.
Sorry to have strayed from the Rudy topic, but he's part of the plan, as well. So was 9-11. If our government can let corporations poison us with chemicals in our water and lie about the effects, then they surely can kill several thousand citizens to facilitate war for the benefit of other corporations. Just like our dead troops, the number was an acceptable loss--to those giving the orders.
Americans need to look at the hard facts of his failures of judgment which hindered the saving of lives that day, and in fact endangered the city's ability to cope with terrorism threats.
Republicans always blame others, now 9/11 it's Bill Clinton's fault. When I take a new job it is up to me to fix what is wrong and take full responsibility, specially when my predecessor tells me what to watch out for. Do you need more explanations?
The Taylor Family
Ron Paul 2008!
Thank you for letting me voice my oppinion. PS: I wish Eduardo Kennedyaz, my Ma. Senator would resign along with John Warner, a gentlman!
B. Cross
His early career was prosecuting aging Italian mobsters while taking payola from Russian & Chinese mobs for former mafia turf.. Then as mayor moved in his own thugs. He used police to clear off Washington Square of street vendors so a deal could be cut with NYU for the privatization of the streets around the park, which failed due to grassroots effort of nobody less than street book vendors. He sold out the lower east side to friends, stealing community gardens on every block, and using military force to evict responsible squatters and their families.
His deal with grandmaster zionist thug Silverstein was a quantum leap as he attempts to lie his way to the presidency. Did you see him evade even the mild questions of Charlie Rose a few weeks ago? He cannot tell the truth, and thankfully cannot hide that fact. BRING HIM DOWN, and fight for 911 truth. Thanks for this project.
Remember that. The problem is not the small small amount of rich taxing you and sending you to war - it's your fellow man! Whether it be Italians, Jews, Blacks, Mexicans, Muslims ... it's the fellow working right next to you that is the problem - not that guy that is shafting you so he can buy a yacht. Remember this! tee hee...
Guiliani is a pittyful excuse for a man. My confidence in my Fellow Americans to reject him, Shunn him and cast him aside; has been affirmed here in these hundreds of posts. He is truely a Small person, literally and in every other sense of the term small. His own children and family have no desire to even be associated with him. How dare he attempt to deceive us all and himself. The dilluded pittyful soul.
Placing the Command center in the World Trade Center.
Not upgrading the communications systems for ALL first responders.
Doing photo-ops while people died.
Using honest to God Heroes as stepping stones for his political career.
Profiteering from the Al-Queda attacks.
Neglecting his responsibilities on the 9/11 commission.
I could go on & on, but I'm begining to feel kinda sick to my stomach.
He is No more Americas Mayor than the Dallas Cowboys are Americas team...
I love how he had to remove his own family from his debate answer on Family Values and never even answered the question.. Reminded me of the Beauty contestant that also recently lost her hearing comprehension and the ability to construct even basic sentences or the ability to recall the question.
Very Presidential isn't he? NOT..!!
Cheney Convinced GW Bush to Ignore the 911 warning signs,and intelligence, thereby willfully aiding and abetting terrorists. Why? Because if the attacks succeeded..which they did; Cheney's Life Long Quest to elevate the White House above the Law and above all scrutiny could then be realized by virtue of it being necessary to "Protect" us from Terrorists. i.e under the Deceptive Disguise of Giving the White House total autonomy; National Security would be enhanced. ergo. all those lost in the 9/11 attacks were mere sacrificial lambs. Intentionally Slain so that Cheney and Bush could then frighten us all into blindly trusting and allowing the administration full autonomy to wiretap, detain, torture, or whatever they felt best for our safety.
Part 2 of Cheney's win-win sales pitch: George Jr.could finish what his Father left undone in 1991. The Toppling of Sadam..
Part 3:Who gets the fattest reconstruction contracts after the War? Cheney-Haliburton. More WIN-WIN? Part 4: The Bush Family Oil Interests?.. wow..they must be sooo 'upset' about current oil prices... ha ha ha ...
Well I suppose it is "Tenent-able". After all, it was supposed to be a "slam dunk"... and when the dust settles there would be some nice reconstruction perks
I truly believe that even They (Cheney-Bush) now recognize the war was a bigg Mistake as no one could have forseen the insurgencies' dogged determination and the New Iraqui governments inability to stabilize. And My God... What Irony.. now that the bigg mistake, the Grand Deception has started.., I deeply regret but am forced to agree; the only solution is now to stay the course..
Lets all atleast insist that they both (Bush-Cheney) watch it play out from PRISON..!! As they are the most haneous murderers in the history of the World.
The Ultimate Irony comes apparent, as These Two Fanatical National Security Zealots will Tragicly be known and remembered in History as the most Prodiguous Traitors of all time. Having perpetrated the greatest acts of Treason against America ever..! Allowing Americans to die, in order to illustrate and justify the Cheney dillusional belief in a need for an all powerful President. Rationale for the immediate need and the implementation of 'Cheneyism' and the stripping away of our rights; so the President could more freely "protect us"..Sounds good, but; who will protect us all from you Dick? The Decider??
This is precisely why we need checks and balances, to protect us from out of control Presidents and Vice Presidents who ignore the American Public, and force their own agendas upon us all. And we deserve it, if we ever grant the white house total autonomy as Cheney has championed his entire political life.
Because in so doing, we create the greatest Threat to National Security that can exist... The White House itself.
[Written b4 Giulani declared his candidacy]
First, the WTC93 attack was conducted under the overview of the FBI. Google Emad Salem. Giuliani never brought this terror incident up in his whole career, so I have to assume that he knew that it was false flag terrorism. www.911blogger.com
The WTC7 command center was never used on that morning, why not? Even before the WTC south tower crumbles.
link at cooperativeresearch.org
and following entries
Instead they had installed luckily a command center on a pier, because of a drill called "TRIPOD3" which should take place on Sep. 12nd.
(FEMA arrived Monday night)
They had warnings that the implosions will happen, that is totally unexplainable, and the engineer who told him that is unknown to this day- that is totally bogus.
link at cooperativeresearch.org
So the only explanation for me is: Giuliani knew all along what was gonna happen. and BTW: Hauer also, as he was on Dan Rather that morning to serve us the 100% "right" official explanation.
ilnk at winterpatriot.blogspot.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLSQT1FSu8A
silverstein would have had to pay maybe 100s of million dollars to get rid of the ASBESTUS? in wtc 1&2.
A "new pearl horbor is needed. Rudy knowing silverstein and neo-cons knowing them both, sees a way out= silverstein purchasing terror insurance, shortly before terror attack= new pearl horbor= end of asbestus problem= money in both their pockets= rudy running for president as a "9-11 hero"= everything good for silverstein rudy and the neo-cons march to irag.
As for building 7 being the command center= allowing wtc 1&2 to be detroyed.
The rhetoric, all the news, all the "official" statements, and everything that comes from the White House or CNN is crafted by highly skilled professionals who are also selling you products that contribute to the ring around your middle. I know, I am one of those professionals.
But similar to the gentlemen who were part of the Manhattan Project, I am ashamed of what I have done, what I have helped to shape, and how my actions have influenced the state of our country.
All you have to do is follow the money. It's not about Freedom, it's not about rights, or any other idealistic notion that has been part of the slipshod sheep's clothing the Bush administration has been wearing. It's about the money. Fat cats want to stay fat. If you were one of them, and you held in your middle-class hand the strings that control nations, would you choose any differently? Search your soul.
Read Lee Iacocca's excerpt.
And then use the brain and the heart and the intuition you were given, and you'll come to the correct conclusion; you'll understand the changes that need to be made, and I hope will all of my being that you take action to make them.
Letting cronies, Bechtel, Bovis...bypass federally mandated worker safety guidelines and environmental protection laws.
Allowing a voluntary cleanup in affected areas. Wanting to cap the monetary reimbursement to those suing for damages inflicted by 9/11.
NYFD and others were true Ground Heroes
Rudy G. was a Ground Nero or Zero.
Meanwhile,in debates all the '08 candidates have to answer foreign policy questions like tough war-mongers instead of intelligent diplomats. It all gets dumbed-down to the lowest common denominator.
http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0732,barrett,7...
The biggest most apalling thing to me was the cleanup. Sending the "evidence" overseas for disposal was just heinous. Rudy is just plain evil, Just ask the rescue workers!!
an entire website to just kill one man's reputation.
you make it sound like he is fully responsible for 09/11.
this just demonstrates show sick american society has become.
Rudy was one of the key players in the inside job, and that was his biggest 'failure' on that day.
HOW?
I think you guys need to lay off the negative attacks and tell us what you believe in. Who funds you? Your other websites just make you seem like partisan shills.
Have a great day.
After knowing from the field that there were problems with communicating with each other they should have left the radios in service for Special Operations command because they could function well under certain condition i.e. the WTC and Subways were terrorist targeted. Also Guiliani and Von Essen had tremendous egos that kept others from saying anything in fear of reprisal. I.E look at former NYPD William Bratton, He was replaced by a real idiot and criminal Bernard Kerik as Police Commissioner.
Now,would you like to hear what I really think about him?
He makes a fool of himself whenever RON PAUL
is around. Ron Paulis patently honestly and upfront and intelligent and this man is so obviously lying ALL the time! It is extroadinary. Anyone who cannot see this is very very dull.
Rudy was a cheerleader that day. Television captured that well, but anyone could have been a cheerleader. We needed a leader, among leaders but mostly we needed advance tactical leadership. We had true leadership in the FDNY brass, poor buggers...most of whom lost their lives. As the wife of a NYC Fire Lieutenant, who served his department, city and country that day I know who the heroes were...they were running in, when Rudy was runnning out trying to cover the biggest blunder of all time.
See:
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=artistpres
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NYCStreetArtists/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Arrest-Giuliani/
http://www.bluecollarpolitics.com/lederman/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Arrest-Giuliani/m...
That's the 1st thing you got right. Your bias is obvious. You only look for the facts that support your beliefs, much like an evolutionist. I have no doubt the media decides who they will try to "kill", but-but-but- it's almost always a conservative they try to "kill", while overlooking the liberals.
When's the last time you saw Brian Williams to a special on William Jefferson-the thief of Washington. You didn't-and won't
So yes, you are correct, you are waisting your time.
Giuliani, the Manhattan Institute, and Eugenics: The Ugly Truth Behind "Quality of Life"
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Arrest-Giuliani/m...
Read the article at this site if you want to know the source of Giuliani's policy ideas
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Robin
One group of 5 Israelis was seen on the roof of Urban Moving Systems videotaping and celebrating the destruction of the World Trade Center. These Israeli agents were returned to Israel on visa violations.
These Israeli suspects, and others, who had apparently transported explosives in the New York area, were allowed to return to Israel without being properly interrogated or their presence and activities in the United States having been vigorously investigated.
Our Federal Government and its STUPID foreign policies failed us; alienating most of our allies, and catering to the oil cartels, as well as selling out to our greedy and immoral military-industrial megalomaniacs!
links. I won five Federal lawsuits about him having me falsely
arrested for exposing his links to extreme racists, former Nazis and
Nazi sympathizers. Every political "idea" he has came from one source,
The Manhattan Institute, founded by CIA director William Casey and
funded by David Rockefeller. Giuliani's real link to 9/11 can only be
understood in light of his lifelong connection to the WTC creator,
David Rockefeller. The Manhattan Institute was also the main group
funding so-called Neoconservatism. GW Bush has publicly acknowledged
the Manhattan Institute as being second only to the Bible as a source
of his "ideas."
NY Times June 12, 2000
Bush Culls Campaign Theme From Conservative Thinkers
"Gov. George W. Bush has said his political views have been
shaped by the work of Myron Magnet of the Manhattan
Institute."
From the Manhattan Institute Website:
Books That Influenced Gov. George W. Bush
The Dream and the Nightmare: The Sixties'
Legacy to the Underclass by Myron Magnet
(the main spokespoerson for MI)
Mr. Magnet's book attracted the
attention of George W. Bush, then in his first race of the
Governorship of Texas. Referring to this book, Gov. Bush
has said, other than the Bible, that it was the most
important book he had read..."
"Currently housed...on the second floor of a building near Grand
Central Terminal, the institute was founded as a free-market education
and research organization by William Casey, who then went off to head
the Central Intelligence Agency in the Reagan Administration....Mr.
Giuliani and his campaign staff began meeting with institute members
in 1992, and since that time have absorbed many of its ideas,
particularly on such issues as the city's tax structure, economic
development, education policy, policing and quality of life."
-NY Times 5/12/97
For details read:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Arrest-Giuliani/m...
Giuliani, the Manhattan Institute, and Eugenics: The Ugly Truth Behind
"Quality of Life"
also see:
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=artistpres
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NYCStreetArtists/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Arrest-Giuliani/
http://www.bluecollarpolitics.com/lederman/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Arrest-Giuliani/m...
Check out the book _Mistakes Were Made (but not by me)_ if you want to understand how hypocrites "work"--they can end up being the last ones fooled by what they claim.
Criminal negligence ?
Yep ! Rudy is something else !
You're Not American .. Constitutional Defenses? You Have No right to anything except passage back to your Country of origin. Cities that legislate local laws that make it also a violation of local law to disobey federal law is Perfectly Constitutional.! A local municipality should not have to be relegated to the role of a Security Guard- observe and report?
Should they also simply observe and report other federal law violations to federal law enforcement and then wait for the Cavalry to arrive? Doesnt Our entire legal & justice system mimmick and parralell our Federal Model?? Isn't even every boy scout, every law enforcement, every public official, every military and governmental employee, and public official sworn to protect and Defend against any enemy foreign and domestic?
Should the small town Mayor simply observe and report that Bin Laden is strolling down Rodeo Drive shopping ?
Have we all lost our collective Minds?
No where to run to baby... No where to Hide.. Thats exactly what every ILLEGAL alien should feel.. Yesss!!.Fear of Deportation.. GIVE ME MORE FEAR.!!
TURN UP the FEAR..!!! Pump it Upp...!!
The only thing they should take comfort in..is knowing That the Entire Family will all go back where they came from...TOGETHER...
No Family Separations.. NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND.!!
Send the ILLEGITAMATE Kids Back also.!!
.It is Is ABSURD that a Pregnant Alien's child is automatically a U.S. Citizen just because the mom crossed the Rio Grande squatted, spread her ass and dropped a human bomb on the USA. Is it American Shitt if she deficates?? Is it American Sewage now ??? American sewers must now carry her shitt too?? Kiss My ASS!!
YES we need COMPREHENSIVE REFORM!!! REPEAL Foreign to U.S. BIRTHRIGHTS.. That's where I would Start.
Your Grand MA was Illeagl ?? So are You..!!
DEPORT THE ENTIRE FAMILY...RETRO ACTIVE to whenever the Family's Illegal Existance began...
Leave NO FAMILY MEMBERS BEHIND..!!! EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU ..Go back to the END of THE LINE ..apply legally for Citizenship.
Forfeit all that you illegally obtained.
That is one key critical way to stop or even slow Illegal immigration.
Stay home wannabe immigrants. Fight and Die for democracy in your own country as Americans did.
Overthrow your Dictators.. Free your selves..!!
You just might begin to appreciate the Value of American Citizenship after wanna be Illegals start to pay the ultimate price for their own freedom. Pay with their own sweat, flesh, blood, teeth, nails and tears
WHAT PRICE FREEDOM?
To empose a fine of $5,000 on a foreign Invader?This is an affront to the memory and soul of every American Veteran that ever fought and Died to protect America.. Their Life was only worth $5000 a piece?
American War Dead will now have a $5000 Value per
corps.?
Thats the Price of American Freedom? The Value of an American Life?
Some dilluded Fools wish to make it possible for An Illegal Immigrant Invader to enjoy all that your father, husband, son, brother,sister died for.. All for only $5000.00 USD ..On Sale until November 2008. Appauling...!~
When are we all going to awaken from this bleeding hearts COMA on Illegal Alien Compassion?
Did our War Dead recieve Mercy or Compassion??
Its cold,its harsh, its real. But, they have no right to be here. Not 1...
I heard gossip that I had missed seeing Rudy serving turkey on Thanksgiving to the workers with photographers in tow. It must of been a short shift, like half an hour.
The only time I witnessed him with my own eyes was at Ground Zero the Towers of Light ceremony (which as low ranking volunteers were only allowed to attend at the last minute due to the kindness of a Port Authority cop, who was outraged at our exclusion and got us in and the last minute...Oh wait, I did see him again, at the cutting of the last beam ceremony that took place the night before the sight prematurely closed. Again we were brought in at the last minute, this time due to the kindness of an FDNY Battalion Chief. After all Rudy was there (not in the pit mind you) and there was his safety to think about. Funny that, cause there seemed to be no great concern about the safety of the people, many who are now getting sick who were down there day after day (unlike Rudy) Oh, Im sorry. We were supplied dust masks, and hard hats the first day in, so if there was a saw dust attack we would be just fine.
I'll tell you who I did see, fellow New Yorkers side, by side, of all political persuasion, race, religion, creed, age, gender, and sexual orientation, turning up day after day, bound together by the tragic events of 9/11. Some came to find their loved ones remains, and if they were one of the few who did find a son, a brother, a father, a daughter, a coworker and stayed on in hope to give some other grieving relative or friend a bit of comfort, a body to bury. Some came to find a bit redemption in a world that suddenly seemed hopeless ugly and mean. And we found it in the faces of good people who despite their various walks of life, walked all in the same direction. Some came to give back in gratitude for our friends and family who were able to get out of that hell in time, or were one of the thousands and thousands who were rescued by the selfless compassion and bravery of the uniformed services, and the everyday Joe's who went to work that sunny morning almost 6 years ago and found a heroism they didn't, know they possessed. We'll never know there names and they probably wont run for president, they just did the right thing. I saw long retired firemen in brown car harts limping up that ramp, smiling though their hearts were broken when they came into the tent to get warm, or grab something to eat, and laughed at our lame jokes as that and mediocre coffee food was all we could give them before they return to the pit and sift through 110 stories of ash and rubble for their beloved heroic children and the children of thousands others, most of which where never found. I saw policemen who's wives made them bring in homemade cakes, cause they needed to give in some way. I saw thousands and thousands of cards drawn with crayons from children all over the globe wishing hope and healing. I saw the despair in peoples eyes on the bad months when little would be found, and I saw a different despair on the 'good' months when more remains where found. I saw grieving, mothers, sisters and daughters, wiping down tables, bravely putting on 'the face', the we are New Yorkers, We are Americans and even though sometimes, you knew they wanted to break down, (as I imagine the majority of the thousand who were there did weeping in the porto toilets or on the way home when know one was looking. It was there, in that hellish yet holy place where the true meaning of dignity was revealed to us. I saw people who drove all the way up from New Orleans to give us gumbo, 'baby cake and mardi gras beads to feed our soul and spirit as we left the perimeter after finishing our shifts. I saw a homeless man donate his cup full of coins to the Salvation Army so that some one else could eat. I saw survivors rescue workers and families whom also had their lives shattered in the Oklahoma City bombing who traveled across the country like countless other fellow Americans to offer their help and support in anyway they could. I saw the growing lack hope seep in as the 'finishing date' grew closer, knowing soon that the mission was over, whether it was or not that site was gonna close and many would never be remains would never be recovered, In the most terrible tragedy, I saw humanity at its best. I did not discuss politics down there,as it had no place down there. I talked to a thousand people, many whose names I'll never know, but whose faces I'll remember forever because they were, there and as far as I know, none of them have plans to run for the office of President of the United States. I didn't speak to Rudy Giuliani because I never saw him there. Every time he uses the terrible events of September 11th for political gain (never mind the finical gain he has all ready garnered, he insults not only the memory of those lost on that awful day, but the intelligence of those who were actually there for other reasons than a photo op..
Many years ago there was a plane, flight 401 that crashed in the everglades. No one was aware there was a problem. It turned out that due to a faulty switch, when the pilot left his seat, he inadvertently bumped the control and the auto-pilot was disengaged. On the co-pilot's side instruments still showed the plane at the proper altitude even as the plane was going down. Each and every piece of that plane, some no larger than a nickel, were gathered up and reassembled in a hanger and analyzed until they found the cause of that crash. This is what happens with every single plane crash in this country. Every single crime scene is meticulously searched for evidence. On 9/11/2001,all the evidence, 4 planes, many thousands of tons of evidence, thousands of bodies, and all the rest, were removed, ignored, covered up, destroyed, or plowed under. Rudy ordered the rescuers to quit the recovery and ordered the entire Trade Center Complex plowed over.
Now he would have the unmitigated gall to call himself "One of them". Instead of running for president, he should be in jail, charged with obstruction of justice at the VERY LEAST.
I believe the real damaging evidence against Rudy is yet to emerge. WTC 7 was intentionally demolished to destroy evidence relating to the 911 attacks and Rudy was involved. Giuliani also played a roll in the 7/07/05 London bombings. This gut would be worse than Bushm if that's possible.
I think the biggest failure is the complete lying about the air quality. I live 12 blocks directly north from ground zero and find myself concerned about the exposure to carcinogens and toxins.
It was his version of Bush's "Bring it on" to the terrorist.
Follow the money!!!!!
It was always Rudy's way or the highway.
We would be getting another Bush, ruthless, although more intelligent, but another Emperor with no clothes.
done without the help of Dick Cheney and Rudy.
Each steel beam has a number on it that allows forensic specialists to recreate the dynamics of the collapse. By sending off the steel to be recycled in China and Asia he prevented this from happening.
Additionally, Dr. Steven Jones tested several samples that managed to be saved and found traces of thermite, an chemical agent used to cut massive steel columns. Since none of the Cities agencies appeared to have done similar testings it could be that Rudy effectively aided in the destruction of evidence that might have proved conclusively that explosives were used to bring the towers down. Video evidence clearly shows molten steel pouring from one building just prior to its collapse, which is what one would expect if thermite reactions had occurred.
A referendum must be brought to NYC voters to give them the power to compel a new 9/11 Commission to examine the full record and evidence of cover-up. If it is found that Rudy is guilty for negligence or obstruction of justice then he should be punished to the full extent of the law and stripped of his knighthood which surely he doesn't deserve, even absent a guilty finding.
For a broader expose of the 9/11 cover-up as seen through the eyes of the families please check out 9/11: Press for Truth which I helped produce. Demand full investigation by Congress, the City of New York and by duly constituted authorities overseas. And act now to remove your money from the banks the fund the war and the desecration of our Constitution carried out in the name of the war.
Vote at TheRealRudy.org →
It would be so much easier, and less time consuming, to list his "successes" concerning that day. Even his supposed giving hope to the rest of the country was more harmful than anything else as it was almost entirely based in lies, and had to have had an extremely depressing effect on every true hero who heard about it.
To the people of the United States, wake up, you've been slapped in the face enough times.
Like Bu$h himself admitted at a fundraiser, "The haves and the have-mores...you're my base"
The rest of us are expendable.
You could just as easily be talking about President Bush.
-A politician who covers things up after mistakes are made...
-A politician who uses media clips out of context to create different impressions...
This darker side of human behavior is not NEW.
The "Real Rudy" report was entirely one-sided. Quotes from the 9-11 report where isolated from their context within the report. The same loop is played over and over.
Yes, the loop is confusing. You really cannot tell which direction anyone is heading. Does this prove he was leaving the scene? Or does it plant an image into the mind of the viewer and bias their thinking as the are presented the "facts"?
While the claim is made that Rudy put a shine on the facts to give a message to the masses that he was handling the situation correctly, wasn't this message tailored to do something similar - to persuade viewers that this contrary picture of his actions is the correct version?
Also, isn't it true that police and fire departments, police and sheriffs, police and the FBI, the FBI and the CIA...have problems "coordinating" their efforts?
Is the mayor now in charge of making everything work in New York? In other words, if the system works, he might falsely claim the credit, but if it fails, he most certainly will get the blame.
Perhaps the location of the command center was selected to send a message to terrorists? A backup center of course would have been prudent. A lot of things would have been prudent.
Ultimately no one did a drill for an airplane flying into a building. People died trying to rescue others, and many of these deaths could have been prevented. Their survivors have the right to be enraged.
Maybe the bottom line is that politicians tend to have the sort of personalities/egos that make it possible for them to endure the circus of trying to run for an elected office.
The pressure to never make mistakes, the endless spin, and the need to suck up to others to make it into office culls the better planners and thinkers and doers from the ranks.
Perhaps this glimpse of the real Rudy is 100% correct. But in my humble opinion, your presentation, done with such bias, doesn't inform to the level one wishes it could, and instead inflames. A more balanced report would make the case stronger.
b. You don't really think anyone in our government wanted jets flown into the World Trade Center, do you?
The conspiracy started when they looked at what happened and planned how they could spin it to their advantage.
It is apparent he doesn't have the right skills to run a city in an emergency and wouldn't know how to run our country in a similar situation. The only credential Mr. Guiliani has to run on is 9/11. I would hope that the elusion of leadership skills he tries to create from 9/11 is revealed during the presidential race before he is elected President.
This man is clearly not prepared to repair our country after the destruction and mayhem caused by this administration. Mr. Guiliani would just be more of what we have had for 8 years.
And thank you to all the truth-tellers who will help defeat him!
The NYPD, while killing and beating Black and Brown people, were busy shouting, "It's Giuliani time!"
Rudy put his command center in Building 7, against the advice of of anyone with brains. Rudy was advised to put it in Brooklyn!
He is by far the strongest candidate on the war on terror which is our biggest concern in 2008. Pssst to the moderators here...nobody hears you.
Clerks, waiters, janitors, fireman, and other working people were destroyed along with the buildings. With all the yakity-yak about EQ sneaking into the country, being so clever they avoided detection by FBI and CIA, one must ask why they didn't try to hit Congress in session, or the White House when occupied by the president?
Get out your duct tape people, read the red, orange and yellow alerts, Bush and his new Homeland Security bureaucrats will be ever vigilant to collect their salaries.
Follow the money, the privilege, the cronyism and the deception. Not a "conspiracy theory" but documented facts. Rudy remains loyal to his mentors.
Here you have a candidate for the presidency lying about his staff and yet, the news isn't covering it.
What is the matter with the US, you have old neocons squealing on Bush like Tenet and Bremmer, you have Brown laying out what really went on in New orleans and NOTHING.
How can a country like the US get to a point it can be conned into trying to impeach a president for getting a blow job, conned into letting a witch from Florida control the presidential outcome, conned into attackign a country that had nothign to do wityh Osama, conned into relecting Bush for round 2.
Folks, as your northenr neighbour looking from the outside, you had better forget iraq, instead, concentrate on IMPEACHMENT.
The citizens of the US must take a stand and drag this imbecile and his cronies onto the world stage and demand their removal. Anything less is a further weakening of your country.
I really really feel bad for what the US has become.
He takes...
orders
that look as he immitates
how they do
Do Not Fall for this
READ YOUR BIBLE
read for yourself
on one of the respondent's comments regarding the lack of investigation of the steel beams from the trade buildings (wanted to ask him/her if they knew if the buildings contained asbestos)before I gave a second thought that your site is is for collecting opinions, disseminating facts and opinions, similar to an editorial page in the newspaper. Yeah!
On a more basic level regarding Guiliani, my personal opinion is that he has all the charm of a cobra, the greed of Midas, and the loyalty of a trained for "kill" pit bull to his masters. FDNY and NYPD have been among the victims, so far, contained to NYC.
Thank you for allowing my opinion without giving a "password".
The lack of equipment that allowed fire and police to talk to one another on 9/11, the location of the 'command center'--which itself became a part of ground zero--and many other technical details all mitigate against claims made by Rudy and his cronies that he is the 'hero of 9/11'.
The only heroes of 9/11 are the people of New York who risked their lives, lost their lives, and still suffer from the long-term health effects of breathing the toxic air on that horrible day. (Thanks to Rudy and that other goddamned incompetent hack at the EPA, Christie Todd Whitman, for lying to everyone about the hazards of breathing the toxic air.)
Why Rudy failed us? He was obviously campaigning for President even on 9/11; never one to miss an opportunity to stand on a pile of corpses in order for the crowd to get a better look at him while he speechifies about his own heroism.
That miserable piece of (*&(*#(&$ Giuliani should live long enough to see somebody else beat him to the GOP nomination. And I don't mean that other phony Thompson.
American need blood,we got the Iraq;
American need a enemy,we got Bin Laden (after the Russia,after the China).
American need a blow job,we got G.W.Bush.
Oh, May God blow America.
I am so freaking tired of you liberal arm chair quarterbacks. The more you believe your own bullshit the more obvious you become.
Rudy Giuliani is to blame for the death of the firefighters. He is not fit to be President.
Despite Rudy's desperate attempts to shift blame, records show that his administration was aware of the toxic levels of asbestos in air samples of Ground Zero but he "sidelined" federal agencies with "extensive disaster response experience." Giuliani's administration assigned clean-up to an unknown city agency and re-opened sections of Manhattan "despite knowing the air was toxic," "overruling" the city's Department of Environmental Protection which found high levels of asbestos in 27 of 38 tests conducted before Giuliani refuted concerns about the air quality and said the "air quality is safe and acceptable." [The New York Times, 5/14/07; UPI, 9/7/06; Giuliani, 9/28/01; New York Post, 9/7/06; Daily News, 9/6/06]
As a result of Rudy Giuliani's poor decisions, "more than 2,000 New York City firefighters have been treated for serious respiratory problems." He also has yet to comment on evidence disclosed last month showing the dust from the destruction of the World Trade Center has been definitively linked to a death. Firefighters and 9/11 family members angered by Giuliani's lack of accountability have protested his campaign events and have filed lawsuits against the city. [The New York Times, 5/24/07; The New York Times, 5/14/07; New York Observer, 5/29/07]
"The way Rudy Giuliani has bucked responsibility for this serious health issue speaks volumes about his shabby brand of leadership," said DNC Communications Director Karen Finney. "Instead of trying to smear a colleague, Giuliani should just truthfully answer the concerns of the firefighters and 9/11 families who are protesting his candidacy. As Americans learn more about Giuliani's refusal to take responsibility for his poor 9/11 decisions, they too will question his ability to lead the country."
Giuliani Misled Public, First Responders About Ground Zero Conditions, Leading To Widespread Health Problems; Now He Bucks Responsibility
Giuliani Touts Accountability. On the Giuliani Partners website, Giuliani is quoted as saying, "Nothing builds confidence in a leader more than a willingness to take responsibility for what happens during his watch." [Giuliani Partners, www.giulianipartners.com accessed 6/25/07]
But, When the Truth About The Air Quality at Ground Zero Was Revealed, Giuliani Passed The Blame. Responding to former EPA chief Christine Todd Whitman's charges that the city didn't adequately address air quality problems, the Giuliani campaign passed the buck and blasted Whitman as the one at fault, issuing a fact sheet entitled "Setting The Record Straight" and saying that "Administrator Whitman never voiced any of these concerns at the time." [www.joinrudy2008.com accessed 6/25/07]
Giuliani Dismissed TEST RESULTS, Exposing Workers And Public
Giuliani Said Air Was Safe In Late September '01. In late September 2001, Giuliani flatly denied that air quality at Ground Zero was an issue, saying at a press conference: "The air quality is safe and acceptable. And I know there are people that are concerned about it and people that are worried about it, but that's just the reality." [Giuliani, 9/28/01 (emphasis added)]
But Giuliani Already Knew That The Air Was Toxic, After 27 Bad Test Results. Investigations by the media and the public interest groups revealed documents showing that "Giuliani re-opened sections of downtown Manhattan weeks after the 9/11 attacks despite knowing the air was toxic," and that he "overruled" the city's Department of Environmental Protection. According to the Daily News, 27 of 38 tests before his statement that the air was safe showed elevated levels of asbestos. [UPI, 9/7/06; New York Post, 9/7/06; Daily News (New York), 9/6/06]
Giuliani Did Not Enforce Safety Standards. The Daily News reported, "Giuliani and the city failed miserably to enforce federal safety rules at the site. For weeks, the city did not ensure that every worker used proper respirators and decontamination methods - something federal inspectors noted in a highly critical report on Oct. 6, 2001." The New York Times wrote that official documents, interviews and legal testimony show that the city "never meaningfully enforced federal requirements that those at the site wear respirators." [Daily News (New York), 9/6/06; New York Times, 5/14/07]
Firefighters, Public Falling Ill By The Thousands
WTC Dust "Clearly Linked" To A Serious and Fatal Diseases. The World Trade Center toxic dust was directly linked to sarcoidosis, a debilitating and potential fatal disease that firefighters developed at 5 times the rate after exposure to the toxins. According to The New York Times, in a 2007 "clinical study to clearly link World Trade Center dust to serious and sometimes fatal diseases, doctors have found that the number of New York City rescue and recovery workers with a rare type of lung-scarring condition soared in the year after the trade center collapsed." [New York Times, 5/8/07, www.nytimes.com ]
Several Firefighters Later Died and Thousands Fell Ill. Thousands of firefighters developed illnesses and what has become known as World Trade Center cough. "Beyond all doubt" the deaths of at least four responders were "a direct consequence of their service" at the WTC site according to the Daily News. [New York Times, 2/27/07; 5/14/07; Newsday (New York), 1/31/07; Daily News (New York), 7/25/06]
Healthcare Costs Starting Estimated At $250 Million Just For Workers. The Bush administration, after "impassioned pleas" by members of New York's congressional delegation, agreed in 2007 to spend $25 million to care for rescue workers, a down payment towards total costs estimated at $250 million. [New York Times, 1/31/07]
NYC FACING LAWSUITS FOR GIULIANI'S ACCTIONS
City Facing Lawsuits For "Inexcusable Violation" Of Safety Laws; Giuliani Administration Was Concerned About Lawsuits in 2001. Groups of recovery workers and first responders are suing the city. "Lawyers representing the workers argue that after the first two weeks the city was guilty of an ''inexcusable violation of basic safety laws'' because it did not ensure that the workers had proper protective equipment, like half-face respirators, and the training to use them." [New York Times, 6/23/06]
RON PAUL 2008
God help us.
This argument like so many NeoCon responses do one thing...they ignore the truth.
Watch the video again, someone is lying, is it Rudy or is it the other guy. Keep it simple and you'll get your answer.
Personally I think Rudy is lying. And if he is, he should not be given a chance to become the President of a country with the largest nuclear arsenal on the planet.
but I DO know that 9/11 was an inside job!!
I have seent the BBC video , announcing the collapse of WTC bldg 7 (not struck by a plane, not included in the 9/11 commission)
BEFORE it actually happenened!!!
THIS is what needs to be investigated, along with all the other Bush regime crimes, at the IMPEACHMENT of him and Cheney!!!!!
He needed an autocue to read a speech. Each point was underlined for emphasis. For Example "You guys are heroes" You think he would have been to speak from the heart., It was all spin. I also lost respect for Senator Daeschle ( leader of the house) who did the same.
Clinton stepped up to the plate and spoke for ten minutes. No autocue , no notes straight from brain to mouth.
At the time I could not understand why RG was being booed, now I do.
Anthony
Let the Republicans kill each off in the internecine fights, our job is to kick them out of office!
Guiliani belongs in the big house, not the White House.
He failed first responders and Ground Zero workers by backing up the EPA's false statements that the air was safe...Brooklyn also suffered from the toxic ash (towers filled with asbestos).
He failed the United States by taking part in the 9/11 Hoax and conspiracy, a false-flag terror event designed to mobilize resource wars/profiteering, corporatocratic anarchy and mediaopoly.
9/11 was an inside job, please Google "WTC 7," the building that collapsed @ 5:20pm that day. It housed Rudy's command bunker and many interesting offices (FBI, CIA, SEC, etc.).
911 Superfailure.
Thanks to RG's Sanctuary City, ATTA WAS FREE TO LIVE IN BAY RIDGE, ON RIDGE BOULEVARD, NEAR MY HOME, AND - NOT BY CHANCE - NEAR THE 69TH ST. PIER WITH ITS PANORAMIC VIEW OF THE NY SKYLINE. THERE, ATTA COULD STUDY THE PROFILE OF THE WTC AND PLAN HIS FLIGHT INTO THE TWIN TOWERS.
ATTA WAS A FAMILIAR FIGURE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND AT LOWEN'S PHARMACY. THE PHARMACIST REMEMBERS ATTA WELL, SAYS ATTA SEEMED AN ORDINARY FELLOW EXCEPT FOR HIS STRANGE, DEAD-LOOKING SYES. AFTER 9/11, PEOPLE RECOGNIZED ATTA IN THE NEWS PICTURES BY THOSE STRANGE EYES AND THEN WE KNEW WHO HAD REALLY BEEN LIVING AMONG US.
RG HAS A MONUMENTAL EGO TO BE RUNNING FOR PRES. AS THE HERO OF 9/11. IN FACT GIULIANI IS RESPONSIBLE NOT ONLY FOR LETTING THAT DISASTER HAPPEN, BUT ALSO FOR INVITING IT. THANKS TO GIULIANI TERRORISTS LIKE ATTA WERE AT LARGE IN RG'S SANCTUARY CITY.
THE TRAGIC FACT IS THAT MAYOR BLOOMBERG REFUSES TO LEARN THE LESSON OF 9/11. SO SOME OF US CONTINUE TO GO TO BED AT NIGHT WONDERING WHAT NEW MISCHIEF MAKERS ARE AMONG US WHETHER WE SHALL WAKE UP IN ONE PIECE.
I PERSONALLY KNOW SOME SUCH ILLEGAL CRIMINALS WHO ARE FREE TO LIVE HERE AND MULTIPLY WITH ANCHOR BABIES; FOR N.Y. POLICE STILL HAVE THE OLD ORDERS (FROM KOCH, RG, AND NOW BLOOMBERG) "DON'T BOTHER THE IMMIGRANTS." THE POLICE ALSO HAVE AN ADDED ORDER FROM MAYOR BLOOMBERG: "LEAN OVER BACKWARDS FOR THE MUSLIMS."
P.S.;
AFTER 9/11, WE MUST WONDER WHAT GOES ON IN THE MINDS OF OUR LEADERS WHO ARE INTENT ON "MAKING NICE" TO THE MUSLIMS WHEN THESE ISLAMISTS OPENLY SAY THAT ISLAM IS "A POLITICAL IDEOLOGY" AND ANNOUNCE - JUST AS THE COMMUNISTS AND THE NAZIIS USED TO SAY - THAT MUSLIMS ARE HERE, NOT TO ASSIMILATE, BUT TO DOMINATE AND ESTABLISH THEIR CALIPHATE. wHAT ARE OUR LEADERS THINKING? GO FIGURE.
D.S.Ikaris, Ph.D. (London)
Professor Emeritus, CUNY)
I cannot believe anyone would actually vote for this turdball for dogcatcher. He's a joke, but in poor taste.
Rudy was able to take care of New York in spite of Clintoon. As a die hard Democrat, I demand Rudy be vindicated and the truth be told. Rudy saved NY, kept NY safe in spite of Clintoon not protecting the city. Clintoon denied the greatest city in the world federal protection by calling the 1993 attack just a police action. What a moron, no wonder he and hillary are hated here in NY!
Come on people, tell the dogs the truth, the Republicans are trying to make Rudy look bad so they can get Thompson in. Rudy is really the best mayor and will be a great President, even though he is a republican. Vote for Rudy and post the Rudy truth and VOTE RUDY!!!
It's all there.
They planned and carried out the attack.
They planned and carried out the attack.
Sincerely,
Paul B. Utiger
putiger@comcast.net
The towers were demolitioned.
one droped in 9 seconds.
the other in 10.
And the other one fell why? It wasnt hit.
Go to.
www.puppetgov.com
Then down the rabbit hole.
Then watch 9/11 mysteries.
After watching some of the facts. Think!
Hope this scares the hell out of you.
It did me.
ME.
Rudy was paid to "fail"....
short time frame (for the sake of Wall Street), he caused many workers to suffer
permanent lung damage. This is a public health crime.
You Republicans need to ask yourselves if this man should be our next president.
It all comes back to the "image" the repulican spinmasters would like the American Public to believe is that; they have our back, that they're the hero's and the only ones compitent to do the job, that they somehow know what's best for us and care for us as a Nation, as a people. But this is all propaganda, a false image. It is time for us as American's to pull back the curtain of this disception and call it for what it is. Political greed in action. It is time we put people in office that really care about our nation. That promote a strong financial economy and promote the nations welfare over their own self interests.
"We the People" can make a difference by demanding fair election practices, by support our local and national campaigns. By serving as volunteers in our own communities, canvassing streets, working phone lines, donating to candidates with good purpose. It is up to us as Americans to not be victims of the political process. It takes action. We must do our part!
May the hope and care of our nation rest in our capable hands. I'm going to do my part, will you?
My nomination for the greatest error was tampering and destroying evidence at a crime scene. What happened to the girders of steel that fell? He melted them down and sent them to China. That is a crime and should be prosecuted as such.
I am a HUGE fan of your films and have received many via the KPFK fund drives. Your documentary on Wal-Mart was so outstanding, I took it home to Green Bay,WI and showed it to all my mother's nurses, who vowed they would never step inside a Wal-Mart again!
Your films on FOX news, IRAQ, etc. are inspirational and truthful. Your story on Rudy Giuliani is just the tip of the iceberg with regard to what happened on 9/11 - the fact that even mainstream media is SLOWLY starting to pick up on the fact that "something's rotten in Denmark" with the "official" versions of the Towers info - the lies, etc. - will someday bubble to the surface - beyond the Internet and bloggers.
Thanks for the good work. I am a film producer myself (Norma Rae, etc.) and I deeply appreciate your truth and courage!
Warmest regards,
Alexandra Rose
(323) 654-8662
The decision to have all the steel immediately sent to China, which eliminated any possible forensic investigation as to the cause of the collapses, is criminal negligence at best.
NO WORKING COMMUNICATION SYSTEM
Cronies in high places
USING THE 9/11 ATROCITY AS A POLITICAL OP!
Does "Silverstein" mean anything to you?
The city leased way too much space at the WTC because private business moved out (for good reason).
Well, it worked on 9/11. They were running a terrorist attack simulation at NORAD and the DOD.
When a play works, you keep running it until the opposition catches on. Then as a White House aide said "We create our own reality, and while you are trying to figure out what happened, we will create a new reality".
At the beginning of the emergency period that arose in the aftermath of the attack, people gave blood, construction workers came to Manhattan and country dedicated itself to bringing the evil doers to justice or bringing justice to the evil doers.
Then Giuliani and GW Bush realized what great photo ops the rubble and rescue attempts at ground zero offered them.
Very soon instead of uniting a grieving nation and sympathetic world in a Global War on Terrorism, Bush and Giuliani turned the whole thing into a political treasure hunt aimed at Iraq's oil supplies.
The fact remains that after being told that there was a terror plot against us, Bush went on vacation instead of shaking the trees and making agencies cough up actionable intelligence.
The fact remains, that not one American did anything to defend us when the terrorists attacked.
The fact remains that instead of fighting against terrorists Bush and Giuliani mislead us and took us into an optional war that has seriously degraded our ability to deal with the terrorists.
Bush and Giuliani are both phonies and their support comes from gullible people who believe everything they see on the TV news.
His mistake is his tv appearances. When a liar is allowed to speak repeatedly his true colors are hard to hide.
filmakers who made "LooseChange". Ask why Rudy stopped uncovering bodies on 10/31/01 when they uncovered the real subject of the excavation, THE Missing GOLD. From then on the bodies that remained in the debris at Ground ZERO went directly to the dumpsites across the river, enmass.
Ask him why he destroyed evidence and obstructed justice when the 30 foot* long chevron cut "47 steel core columns" were trucked out uninspected, * DEMOLITION STYLE perfect cuts. In all likely-hood, the 23rd floor of bldg #7 was the base of operations to set the programmed charges off in perfect ( almost) sequence.
to the increased trash; polarization of the city leading to the Doresmond/Louima/Diallo incidents; the lack of respect for Gracie Mansion [after all, isn't Bill Clinton held responsible for disrespecting the Oval Office by his behavior?]; the questionable ethics of staff; [more being implicated every day]
I'm proud of my family. When they all got to America they became citizens and Democrats.
I'm shocked that you would post a "fake" attack on CNN, on your website. One of your cronies in fact published a 4 frame footage, showing 4 different angles of the "second plane hitting the South Tower", then claiming that the two (top frame and bottom frames as shown on the left were allegedly CNN fake footage). Yet the same film also purports to claim that the "right" top and bottom frames (ironically also obtained from CNN), purports to show the "true" footage. I have several problems with this argument. First. The bottom right hand footage which you (and your cronies) claim is authentic clearly shows an object (speeding towards the South Tower), which does coincidentally appears to me to be some sort of aircraft. Second. Using stop-motion photography apparently appears to hit the South Tower at the PRECISE moment that the other three frames explode into a fireball. I don't believe this is nor can it be animation as I will dispel. Other debunkers proved their points by pointing out a rather "mysterious" object located on the undercarriage of the alleged United Airlines Flight # 175. This is actually easily explained. THIS WAS A REAL PLANE. AND NO. IT WAS NOT UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT # 175. THIS WAS NOT EVEN A BOEING AIRCRAFT. BUT AN AIRCRAFT IT CERTAINLY WAS. This is my theory. The military, in particularly the Air Force uses a reconverted C-130 aircraft as a re-fueling jet (in the instances their fighter jets need to refuel in mid air). These aircraft have two engines on the left wing. They also have one engine on the right wing, and one engine on the undercarriage, which serves a threefold function. (These are even now many dozen of these aircraft still actively used in military exercises in the Persian Gulf). The "undercarriage" engine is broken down into three compartments. One to serve as a funnel for fuel transfer. The second to serve as a fourth engine (though most jet aircraft can fully function on three engines. The third, and perhaps least important (though more important a function if a re-fueling aircraft is undergoing a midair attack), serves as a reserve missile "silo/launcher". In some of the "original" 9/11 footage, you can plainly see the small missile being expelled from this "unknown" engine and striking the 78th floor of Tower 2 scant seconds before the actual aircraft hits the tower. Re-review all of the footage. I am ex-military and I know this to be true. I know this perhaps sounds somewhat bizarre. But remember who is the Vice-President and then Secretary of Defense in power at that time. Only they could possibly have the political and military contacts to pull off such an attack with such military precision. (Do you really think that some slug hiding in a cave with virtually no other resources other than "plastic knives or box cutters" could pull this off)? And how would Al-Qaeda acquire these sophisticated military aircraft unless: 1). The US military provided these to them to begin with. Or. 2). The US military (under the command of the "powers that be" pulled this off them selves, and then conveniently blamed Al-Qaeda). Also think about this. How was it possible that even one (or )more alleged Islamic terrorist(s) were able to hijack even one US domestic flight over American airspace (never mind four) when the last known successful US hijacking was that of DB Cooper in 1981. The reason is simple: US Air Marshalls. That’s why. US Air Marshalls are assigned on ALL domestic US flights. (They are there. Most people don't notice them). Yet on 9/11 we hear of not one assigned to any of the four allegedly hijacked planes. Surely a US Air Marshall with a .45 would surely be able to take out all of the "plastic knife/box cutting" terrorists without batting an eye. So my question is: Where were the Air Marshalls? Why did no one have the foresight to even ask this question? (no wonder there was no answer. The question was never asked). Lastly the attack on CNN doesn't explain the hundreds of eyewitnesses who were here in NYC on 9/11, and clearly saw a second plane hit the South Tower. I was on the rooftop of my home at 100 Beekman Street (I was off work that day, and only worked 4 blocks away if I had worked). We heard the first explosion and I and my girlfriend (now wife) ran two stories to the roof, just in time to see another object hurdling towards and striking the South Tower. How do you explain that? It wasn't an animated cartoon. It wasn't Tweety trying to kill Sylvester in a Kamikaze suicide attack ala United Flight #93. It was real. For me as for the many others who filmed the plane footage. Do you blindly believe that CNN had the only footage? Or that the FBI retrieved it all? Why don't you attack Faux Noise? Or are you a stooge for King George IV.? Or Adolf Hitleriani?
Editor (Bill Manning) of Fire Engineering Magazine said,
"Fire Engineering has good reason to believe that the "official investigation" blessed by FEMA and run by the American Society of Civil Engineers is a half-baked farce that may already have been commandeered by political forces whose primary interests, to put it mildly, lie far afield of full disclosure."
and
"To treat the September 11 incident any differently would be the height of stupidity and ignorance. The destruction and removal of evidence must stop immediately."
F.E. Jan 2002 Edition Link :
http://www.fireengineering.com/articles/article...
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Everyone keeps asking WHY WTC7, here's one BIG reason :
All the Securities and Exchange Commission's lost evidence, resulting in the SEC spokesperson in the NY Post on 12-Sep-2001 stating...
"it's devastating, they'll have to scrap many cases, and start from scratch on others"
and just out today... See :
America's Leading Collapse Expert (Deputy Chief Raymond M. Downey) - "South Tower Was Brought Down With Explosives"
http://www.911blogger.com/node/11241
and
Spitzer Filed Legal Brief, Helped Silverstein Win $4.5 Billion WTC Insurance Windfall
http://www.911blogger.com/node/11254
I want to ask Rudy Giuliani:
Will eminent domain be part of your your policy, as it was in NYC, when you bulldozed roller coasters on Coney Island & sent SWAT teams into community gardens to seize private property from citizens?
Who broke more laws during your tenure in office, the criminals in jail, or you, making hundreds of false arrests a week?
Why did you continue to make 700 illegal arrests after the Supreme Court voted for the street artists you were arresting falsely, without ever charging them?
Why did you arrest 11 firefighters & drag them away from body recovery in Ground Zero just days after 9/11? How long were those firefighters in prison? What were they charged with?
Why did you escort Mussolini’s grand daughter around NYC like she was a celebrity instead of the socialist/fascist she is?
Explain how you used the Manhattan Institute’s ‘Fixing Broken Windows’ as a guide for cleaning up NYC, especially since the book is based on eugenics & the elimination of the impoverished & minorities. Are you an eugenist?
Explain why you stored 6000 gallons of diesel fuel in WTC7 despite the NYFD & The EPA’s recommendations, the NYFD calling it a ‘recipe for disaster’. Did that diesel fuel help cause the collapse of that building?
Explain why you sold hundreds of tons of steel from the WTC to recyclers before a single government agency had any tie to investigate the site of one of the largest ass murders on American soil.
Is the Constitution just 200 year old toilet paper to you?
The person who should be interviewed is the Port Authority Officer who saved a frantic and panicked Guiliani and his henchman Kerik trapped below the WTC site. He will tell you an interesting story.
A second major question is in your video you show a clean "press ready" Rudy running from the site, when all others in the area were covered with soot. Rudy went some place to shower and get himself ready for the press.
WJM
But there was also light scattered applause as he left the stage, illustrating how the former mayor remains a polarizing figure in New York City.
Whether that mixed response will follow him nationally as voters outside of New York get to know him better remains a test for his campaign for president.
A snippet from a story published in NY Newsday today: September 11, 2007.
(FOOD FOR THOUGHT)
I'm sorry that some moron has ruined the site for you, Don't give up. The true people need you and your ideas. Stick with it. It will get better. And just ignore the retards. (I know. I'm being, myself "politically insensitive" here). But who cares? Stay with us.
Far left loony? Wow, way to generalize, Dennis.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srMIbEee1_A&watc...
THE NEW YORK TIMES
* * * * *
Thursday October 28, 1993 Page A1
"Tapes Depict Proposal to Thwart
Bomb Used in Trade Center Blast"
By Ralph Blumenthal
Law-enforcement officials were told that terrorists were building a bomb that was eventually used to blow up the World Trade Center, and they planned to thwart the plotters by secretly substituting harmless powder for the explosives, an informer said after the blast.
The informer was to have helped the plotters build the bomb and supply the fake powder, but the plan was called off by an F.B.I. supervisor who had other ideas about how the informer, Emad Salem, should be used, the informer said.
You can find the audio (15mins) that Salem recorded covertly when meeting with his FBI handler at :
http://nwo.media.xs2.net/tape/SalemWBAI.mp3
Additional Info at :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emad_Salem
Everyone needs to become familiar with the term "False Flag Operation".
A perfect example of a false flag plan is "Operation Northwoods" an event proposed by the Joint Chiefs of Staff (Stopped by JFK in 1962) as a pretext to start a war with Cuba.
Many thanks and best wishes
Rudy made more money from, and told more lies about, 9/11 than any other single human being.
Mr Bernal, since you seem unable to refute the content of this video with documented facts, I guess you're conceding that what's reported here is true.
Perhaps it's time for more name calling?
This GODDAM GREASEBAG is a stinking closet liberal New Yawk ass-a-hole.
Send RUDY bacck to ITALY, fucking Goddam Greaser, fucking Guniea Wop!
Rudy is a mole for the GAYS, the CIA, the FBI and the MAFIA! Send this GUNIEA back to SICILY.
Second guessing is easy after the fact. Where were you before 9/11?
Rick Outcault
" Hey Chief Riches: weren't you the guy that stripped the UFA widow and Children's fund of it's traditional role after 9/11?"
WIDOWS= wives left behind
Children = Kids left behind
MOMMY and Daddy fund?? Little Brother fund? I never heard of those until you went after the WAC fund. AM I mistaken?"
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Police Commissioner Bernie Kerik was Rudy's Man that day,
a man that never graduated high school,
a man that never passed a promotional exam in the NYPD,
a man that slept with his mistress in a room overlooking Ground Zero, while the room was ment for RnR for rescue workers,
a man that had his apartment renovated by a mob outfit for free,
a man that couldn't find an illegal alien in his own house,
a man that RUDY recommended for head of Homeland Security.
Fire Commissioner, Thomas Von Essen was Rudy's other guy on 9/11,
a guy that never passed a promotional exam in the City of New York, his #1 qualification was sucking up to Rudy.
On 9/11, all the video from The Trade Center before the collapse shows him trying to look over the shoulders of the actual Chiefs in Charge, they work around him, and pay him no mind. He had nothing to offer, so he left to hide with Rudy.
As Commissioner he ordered saftey ropes to be recalled because the department has to spend $200,000 a year repairing the pants due to chaffing, (that's $20 a head). In 2005 men jumped to their deaths because they had no saftey ropes.
If Rudy's FDNY Commissioner had the gaul to show his face in a firehouse, he would get his ass kicked, the man was so dispised, that his son had to resign. He son was no winner either, he hid in daddy's pocket for 2 weeks after 9/11, and upon returning to his firehouse the men told him to "get back in daddy's pocket, you don't work here anymore!!!"
Rudy will have this man be the head of FEMA if you let him, and you know what could go wrong there!!!
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The worst crime of the century and it was not investigated as a crime. Rudy is a traitor.
WTC 7 had NOT been damaged in the attack. There were a couple of little office fires, but not near the command center floor.
The only reason for Rudy NOT to have used the command center right off the bat seems straight-forward enough: He knew it was going to be "pulled" or demolished, too..
As, apparently, did all the other tenants of WTC 7.
Has anyone heard/seen anything about evacuation efforts in WTC 7? I've heard them about the hotel neighbor. But not about WTC 7. Or have I missed something?
I SPOKE TO FRIENDS/FIREFIGHTERS WHO WERE ALL RESPONDING INTO THE WTC.
THERE WERE QUITE A FEW I NEVER SPOKE TO AGAIN.
JERRY HAUER HAS A VERY GOOD REPUTATION AS A STAND UP GUY.
WHEN I LISTENED TO THIS INTERVIEW, I FEEL NAUSEOUS.
RIP GUYS
mr
I really hate my Hillary !!!
Who told him this and why did someone say this considering that NO steel framed high rise building had EVER collapsed due to fire before. (this happened ONLY on 9/11 and happened to THREE buildings.) Many steel framed high rise buildings had burned for MANY more hours and were far hotter yet they did not collapse.
And... if Rudy knew they were going to collapse, why didn't he warn everyone?
Maybe Bush and his cronite used Hitleriani (and his Mafia friends) to pull off the attacks). It's just way too coincidential that Hitleriani should be in both places during or shortly before two devestating terrorist attacks. And oh yeah. He's in London today. Isn't he? I know he and his 'twink" cronies will try to spin this to pretend that "he" was the target. But then how did these bombers know his schedule?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8288604...
He didn't say he "thought" or he "heard" -- he said he was TOLD. Who told him?
Ghouliani has been running form that question like the plague on the campaign trail. See the article and video clips at this link:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2007/29...
Rudy says he was TOLD that the world trade center was going to collapse:
http://tinyurl.com/2ru23u
Article and more video clips:
http://tinyurl.com/2nztwm
As a Financial District employee, I was outraged by his comment, particularly because he has frequently taken positions on the rebuilding process that would be extremely harmful to my community if implemented. Yes Rudy, it was your city that was attacked, but it was our neighborhood. Do you think we are not angry? And yet we are here, every single day. We can't avoid 9/11; we don't have that choice. It's okay if you can't handle it--not everyone can--but don't hold yourself up as a pillar of strength. Don't present yourself as "America's mayor" when you continually ignore those in your own city who have suffered unspeakable violence.
If you walk the streets downtown, you will run into heroes all over the place. They are the residents who, despite untold physical and emotional suffering, returned to their damaged homes. They are the small business owners who lost everything and put in backbreaking hours to rebuild. Every single one of these people has done more to help our city recover from 9/11 than Rudy Giuliani has ever done.
I am so sick of hearing people talk about that man's "leadership" on 9/11. He has done nothing before or since that in any way demonstrated true leadership. As soon as the worst of the crisis was over, a true leader would sit down and take a close look at everything that went wrong, including his own mistakes. Not only has Giuliani not done that, but he has actually gone out of his way to obscure the record on all of his failings. Only a coward does that.
Rudy Giuliani's many failures before, during and immediately after 9/11 were due to lack of competence. His refusal to be open about those failures and his attempt to run for president on the back of the 9/11 community are due to lack of character. As far as I'm concerned, this man is not fit to serve in ANY public office ever again.
The BEST thing that ever happened to that miserable excuse for a human being was 9/11, otherwise he would have been packing shelves in Gristedes.
He dodged a lot of bullets because of the tragedy when he should have been criticized for many things he did, especially in the waning days of his administration.
Look how many years it took for the Command Center issue to be looked at as it is now. He should have been denounced in the first days after.
If you are ever in London, go visit Churchill's HQ where he ran the war from. It is small and unpretentious, but it served England well throughout the war.
big big repuke 2008 lose
POt hole rudy wont even make the run offs
"Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country. "
- Hermann Goering, Nuremberg Trials
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security "- Benjamin Franklin
"Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action. "
-George Washington
"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism. "
-George Washington
"If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter. "
-George Washington
"Over grown military establishments are under any form of government inauspicious to liberty, and are to be regarded as particularly hostile to republican liberty."
-George Washington
This will help with short attention spans.
side of the fence.Only in America he can get
away with this kind of irresponsible behavior and run for the highest office of the country.God help America !
inncocent people for their polital economic plans to remain in power. Guilliani is in the Bush cartel! Lord have mercy!
Are these guys all cocaine addicts? How can they be SO HEARTLESS !
I express my deepest sympathy an support to all the families and partners and loved ones of these MURDERED people, and to our troops and the citizens of Irak and Iran and other countries. May they somehow be protected from this administrations greed and corruption, attempting overtaking several countries for oil and uranium profits, and the love of money and power. Regenerative energy now!
That’s the only word that comes to my mind when I hear that this under qualified, immoral, dishonest, idiot can be considered seriously for the office of the Presidency. I am completely disgusted, and ashamed with the way this country is headed, especially since the bush administration has hijacked our government, and made us enemies around the world. The media is very much to blame. As I watched the last Fox Republican Debate, my stomach turned as I heard the commentator ask question after question to Rudy. And then to have to listen to his sly answers, as if he was some kind of celebrity. This guy needs to be exposed to the masses soon, and stopped in his dirty tracks. There has to be some way to do this! If not, I’m afraid he may become the winning candidate going against that crazy hillary person. Don’t be a sheep!!!!! Wake Up!!!!
Here is an extract from what Time magazine was saying about him back then:
“Sixteen hours had passed since the Twin Towers crumbled and fell, and people kept telling Rudy Giuliani to get some rest. The indomitable mayor of New York had spent the day and night holding his city together. He raced to the scene as the second plane hit, watched human beings drop from the sky, and nearly got trapped inside his makeshift command center when the south tower imploded.”
“http://www.time.com/time/poy2001/winner.html
Let’s not also forget that he was knighted for his was knighted by the Queen of England for his admirable conduct during 911.
Of course, Rudy has made mistakes, and so has anybody who cannot predict the future accurately. One thing is for sure, his performance sure beats Ray –where are the bus keys- Nagin’s during Katrina. This is nothing but a disgraceful hit job on the part of the NYFD UNION who notoriously support the Democrats time and time again.
I will be voting for Rudy Giuliani if given a chance.