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Surely, the office of the President of the United States of America should have standards at least as high as those for my being admitted into a health services program.
if you've ever been around someone who is mentally slipping, here's a common scenario:
the person makes a dogmatic statement on monday. on friday you bring up the discussion again and this time the person says the exact opposite. so you remind the person that he said the exact opposite on monday. he then gets indignant and outraged.he insists: 'I NEVER SAID THAT! I WOULD NEVER SAY SUCH A THING!"
And then he starts degrading you and calling you names to discredit you and negate your credibility in his mind.sound like anybody you know other than an aging grandparent? sound like JOHN MCCAIN??!!
john mccain hasn't had a neuro psych eval in years......
it seems to me that anybody running for president who is over sixty five should be given a neuro psych eval to rule out slowly developing dementia, particularly if the person indicates in speeches that he is confused, remembering things incorrectly, and blaming other people as a defense against his own cognitive lapses....
not just presidential candidates, any sitting president over sixty five should have an annual neuropsych eval as part of the yearly check up.....
ISN'T IT CRITICAL THAT OUR COMMANDER IN CHIEF HAVE FULL CAPACITY AND CONTROL OF HIS COGNITIVE FACULTIES??
ISN'T IT CRITICAL THAT OUR COMMANDER IN CHIEF'S ANGER, REACTIVITY AND IMPULSIVITY NOT BE SIGNS OF NEURO DEGENERATIVE PROCESSES ?? (bad enough if these are character and personality traits of our commander in chief, but that's another issue)
any american who would disagree with the above two paragraphs just isn't thinking clearly about NATIONAL SECURITY and LONG-TERM SAFETY and LONG-TERM PROSPERITY.
Everyone says McCain's not the man they've known for years. Everyone says he's changed. And they're right.
Ironically, John McCain is a change candidate, but not in the same way that obama is, obviously.
Has McCain changed because he decided that if lying and doing what bush & co demand will get him elected it's worth it, or has he changed because of neuro-cognitive changes in his brain making him less capable and clear than he once was?
if the latter, he could deteriorate while in the white house leaving us with a remarkably incompetent and ethically-impaired sarah palin and the people for who she is a puppet running our country: you guessed it: bush, cheney, haliburton, blackwater etc.
bottom line, politics aside: John McCain has said enough things that are contradictory, flat out lies, memory lapses, and perceptions that suggest he can't think in abstract terms.
WE NEED TO DEMAND THE MEDIA AND THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN MAKE IT A PUBLIC ISSUE OF NATIONAL IMPORTANCE THAT MCCAIN GET A THOROUGH NEURO-PSYCH EVALUATION IN ADDITION TO PROVIDING ALL HIS HEALTH RECORDS.
-the other w
p.s. his health records may reveal more than melanomas. what about post traumatic stress disorder? It is extremely likely he is suffering from a chronic form of this from his P.O.W. experience. PYSD can affect one who is afflicted in a spectrum of mentally disablng ways.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWS5ijLELRU
Brain metastases from melanoma are usually multiple and may be asymptomatic for some time before declaring themselves. They then frequently go on to make their presence known with non-specific behavioral changes. A diagnosis of metastatic brain disease cannot be made without brain imaging (CT or MRI). Treatment for melanoma spread beyond the site of the primary, particularly brain metastases, is debilitating and usually not impressively effective.
I am not suggesting that McCain's current behavior, however erratic and uncharacteristic, is suggestive of brain metastases. I am simply saying that he is an individual at serious risk of having such metastases at some time in the next four years. I believe that it is irresponsible for an individual with a past history of invasive melanoma to present him/herself as a candidate for an office as important as the Presidency.
The possibility that a candidate for office is at high risk for serious neurologic problems is something of which the American public should be aware in order to make an informed choice.
Michael Rasminsky MD, PhD
Professor of Neurology and Neurosurgery
McGill University
This is an ugly precedent, and one we would be fighting it tooth and nail if it were proposed by anyone else! Let's be real folks, and not become the fools that we detest! It isn't McCain's health that we need to be fighting, it's his policies and lack of honesty. We can't fight the dirty tricks of the Right wing by dropping our standards to employ equally questionable dirty tricks for the Left!
Any candidate can die at any time, just like any other person in the world. That's not what makes him or her a bad risk. It's their policies, practices and agendas. Sure, his health is a concern but if you turn it into an issue, you will make us all look like idiots!
Do you really want shouts of "Age-ism!" "Fraidy-Crats!" and the like to not just be heard, but be justified???? Hell No! Beat him on honest issues and quit sinking to his level!
HIPAA (one P, 2 A's) stands for the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act--enacted by Congress in 1996 as a means of protecting health insurance benefits for people changing or losing their jobs. While it does have provisions regarding privacy, they were intended to protect the individual from insurance companies cancelling policies by obtaining personal health information without the individual's consent. This was felt to be necessary in an age of electronic medical records filing, now being required by Medicare and most private insurers.
The Privacy Act would be more cogent here, but when Mr. McCain chose to release his records to reporters, even a selected group, he relinquished that right.
Lastly, this is a very serious issue--which would truly affect all of us should this form of very aggressive malignancy recur during his putative term in office. It is tantamount to making a vote for Sarah Palin, in my professional opinion as a board certified, actively practicing physician.
While I am dedicated to the Obama/Biden ticket, ( I was a delegate for Barack for our first three rounds of democratic caucuses) I feel compelled to question whether the country has any right to have McCain's medical records released to the public. How can we as citizens argue for our right to privacy while taking that same privacy away from another? Is it appropriate to make another person a victim, in order to win the "argument"? I do not care for Sarah Palin as our next VP or President, and I am a middle aged white woman who works in the public school system as a "community organizer" (and while I like and admire her, I didn't pick Hillary either). In fact I am appalled at Palin's platform, energy plan, willingness to promote drilling, poor political decisions, the use of her family as a tool to garner support, and her derogatory remarks. I could go on about what I don't like about her as a public figure. BUT..... I feel strongly that doesn't make it right for me to support the removal of the rights of another, and McCain, whether I like him of not, is entitled to his privacy. I could admire him choosing to make his records public, but I don't feel "entitled" to that information.
Integrity in media is just as important as integrity in government. Have we lost the ability to maintain a position without denigrating the opposition. I hope we can learn to define ourselves, not by who we aren't, but by who we are.
I hope this helps!
Connor
And as for that Victory in Iraq get over it the"Surge" McCain stumps around with, here what I like to say about that,So you want to claim Victory for a Lie, is it victory when we loss 4000 troops for that LIE, is it victory when over 300,000 innocent civilans died and who had nothing to do with 9/11 for that LIE, is it victory when we open their borders to the same people who attack us for that LIE, is it victory when we re-write the consitution from everything from torture to excitive right for the LIE.
People Get a grip back on what makes America great Our Honor Our Values and Our Pride in Living.
I have some anti-macain ad ideas.
Join me on yahoo messenger for discussions anybody interested,my yahoo id is grffthwyn.If I'm not on line leave an offline message and I'll get back to you.
I will vote Party lines because I want to put more into our country,not someone elses. Pork spending may be a problem but at least it goes to Americans and not wasted in wars we have no business in or countries we are intruding on.
We have much to do just take of our own hard working people.
Yes, Democrats are desprate to save our country from the raveges of the past 8 republican lead years and the denial they has anything to do with it.
Please dont run this!! Its offensive and totally OFF SUBJECT you numpties!!!
Its the ECONOMY STUPID PEOPLE AT BRAVE NEW SINGLE BRAIN CELL!!!
OBAMA/BIDEN 08/12 (despite your best efforts to screw this up!)
As a nurse with an MS degree, I also think that this is important info on a guy who if elected will be 76 at the end of his term and has had 4 melanomas, one apparently requiring a neck dissection. Look it up, a fairly invasive surgery. It also makes his VP choice even more important. Cringe....
How about a video on McCain's mental health? What do respected psychiatrists and behavioralists say about someone who suffered as McCain did as a North Vietnamese POW forced to sign a confession which challenged his sense of honor? What are the risks that he might snap under the pressures of the presidency? McCain's mental health and prospects might make for a powerful video.
But.
I think this video crossed the line. The close-up of McCain's fresh scar was tasteless. Issues are one thing, exploitation is another. I do not support this.
IT REMINDS ME OF THE 'BETRAYOUS AD'. IT IS AMMUNITION FOR THE WINGNUTS AND REDUCES US TO THEIR SAME DEGRADED LEVEL.
THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO MAKE THE POINT THAT HIS RECORDS NEED TO BE RELEASED.
A Palin presidency is unthinkable and a disaster!
WE need to see his health history NOW
As a candidate for president, McCain faces public scrutiny. And since McCain has a checkered health history and has been secretive about his medical records, we should be deeply concerned about what McCain might be hiding from us. That is what we should be focusing on, not the pictures from the Brave New PAC ad that some on here have found offensive, even though those pictures were first aired on CNN and came from there.
Think about why it is the professional opinion of over 2,500 doctors that McCain's health records should be released.
First, his health is relevant. I agree, but only because if he is elected, and if fails health-wise, we are stuck with a very inexperienced, radical and incompetent Pres. Palin.
Second, maybe there's a law saying his health records should be released. If so, fine.
However, IMHO, it will damage the Obama campaign to go on a crusade to make the release of McCain's health records happen. It looks petty; it looks invasive, and it feels very inconsistent with the bi-partisan, we are better than that campaign/governance approach the Obama campaign is all about. This release the health record campaign will undermine the bigger efforts of a united American front against old school, partisan politicking.
So, I am going to not only not help you out in this effort, but as an Obama supporter, ask you to pull the plug on this project. I know you have escalated a huge commitment thus far, and that sheer inertia will likely prevent you from pulling the plug, but in the spirit of Obama winning, I think this effort, whether just or not, will only hurt our chances to win the White House.
Please think this through, bro. The optics are horrible. Public perception is key here, and IMO, the perception of these ads for those who are on the fence (and those are the people we need to convince!) will be more negative than positive.
Duuude, Rob. I'm gonna get a little personal now here, but about you: Get off of your ego. Your rationale is correct. We should know McCain's medical history, but your approach is inappropriate and IS GOING TO DO MORE HARM TO OBAMA THAN GOOD. I do not care if you have 25 freakin million doctors, get off your horse and realize that this campaign is not about YOU, but about US. This is about electing a potentially transformational leader who can help fix what is broken in America. However, this approach undermines the Obama message and could likely cost us vote!
Please, for the sake of the very campaign you seek you to help, do NOT publish this video.
John McSame, should be required to reveal his medical records!
That is, to pull my own medical records for public display, which is none of anyone's business, in order to prove or disprove my competency to work. It's none of my or anyone's business whether or not his prostate was soft or tender or hard and none of anyone's business if my prostate is soft or tender or hard.
While it is everyone's business to know how healthy or not a president or a pilot of a plane is, or how well constructed a bridge is, or how well a piece of equipment will or won't function in an emergency, that determination should be made by a competent, unbiased group of professionals granted access to the details, whether it be a panel of doctors or engineers, not splattering the most personal records of an individual in front of the world.
I would want whoever was president to respect that about me, and I would grant them the same.
While I am in fact concerned about many aspects of McCain's medical status from heresay, such as that in your video, heresay should become confidentially disclosed fact, not public display.
Granting a selected, unbiased group of medical professionals access, however, should be mandatory and that is what I would stress, before we have the ACLU down everyone's case, and rightly so.
I don't care if you have 220,000 doctors signing a document that says he's records released. I am one doctor saying release them to a qualified objective medical panel, not the public.
The guy at the switch of the country is no less valuable.
many years back, a wonderful senator, Eagleton, was running for President. They found out that he had had counselling early in his campaign and ran him out of the running by stating that he had mental issues. Heck, we raised four kids, we definitely had some counselling a few times, that a GOOD sign! But the Repubs jumped right on that.
This man is running for President! The American people are entitled to know if he is physically capable to handle the job, and if he is mentally up to it!
Hasn't he had three heart attacks? I thought that usually the third is fatal?
If he was going to be in a local spelling bee, his personal records would be considered private. He is running for the highest office in the land and has the lives of all of us in his hands...we are entitled to know.
At this stage, I think we, and Mr. Greenwald, should be primarily concerned about point #3. This is tricky because we do not have a crystal ball to tell us whether this type of advert will create a pos or neg effect on Obama, but I think it's pretty intuitive that such an approach will be perceived by most as offensive. With that, we'd see a detriment to potential votes for Obama.
We have to have a results-oriented approach to advertising or campaigning: Will the advert have the desired effect, namely, to help Obama win. I think this advert will have a rebound effect. So. Don't. Do. It. You have to pick and choose your battles, and you have to have the savvy to realize when even a just cause could lead to detrimental consequences. Getting this advert on may win the battle, yet lose the war. In this metaphor, we could lose the election.
Please, Mr. Greenwald, cease this effort...for the sake of the very campaign you are trying to support. You are not thinking this through. You're going to hurt us.
I would love to see the video of you having your head removed from your ass.
As a taxpayer and as a concerned American citizen I want to know exactly what McCain's health issues are. The typical Republican "hide the facts" and lies aren't going to work this time.
We all have the right to know what our President's health record is.
It has nothing to do with politics!
Shame on MSNBC and NBC for pulling the ad!
It's a free country!
Or at least it was...................
I would like to have as much information about the candidates as I can get before deciding on election day. What is the likelihood that President McCain would become incapacitated, or worse, during his first term? How do I feel about President Palin?
If John McCain were healthy, I wouldn't be so concerned. We survived a Dan Quayle vice-presidency because George H. W. Bush was healthy. Quayle might have done alright as President, but I'm glad we didn't have to find out.
Sarah Palin would have been dismissed in record time as a potential President of the United States had she thrown her hat in the ring during the Republican presidential primary season. Imagine how long she would have lasted. People would have asked, "Why are you here?" That is a grave question to consider now.
Imagine Dan Quayle becoming President. Then imagine Dan Quayle's female Doppelgänger, but not as experienced, and "a little bit" provincial on top of that. There you have Sarah Palin. I want to know if there's a 50/50 chance she could become President during John McCain's first term - or whatever the odds might be. I can only judge that by gleaning a sense of John McCain's health. Does he have one foot on a banana peel? Or is his constitution strong enough now so that he's likely to do well for the next four years? It's important to know.
Think, citizens. We're all in this together.
These people would NEVER speak for me and I think it's ludicrous that NBC would want the two to speak for them!!
Why is it alright to show an ad saying that Sen Obama wants to teach sex education to kindergarten children but it's NOT alright to show a commercial asking to see McSame's health record??
What on earth is he hiding???
NBC, shame on you!
My question is what does it take to force McCain to release his medical records asap, long before 4nov8?
Amazing, in the age of the internet, you'd think we would have known already.
lets face it, obama could step off a curb and get hit by a bus be in a coma for days or years. i certainly dont want joe biden being the president of these united states. if you require the medical records of mccain then you should for obama as well, he could have been treated for a cancer and have a shorter life expectancy of mccain. what is good for the goose is good for the gander.
educate yourselves on the real issues her people and then make an informed vote. dont depend on websites who string together sound bites and biased media agencies or the guy at the minimart to make your vote. whomever you vote for will be in office for the next four years. i might add that the democrats have ruled both houses of congress for the PAST two years and the republicans are taking the heat for everything bad in our country.
peace out.
the leading country. Bravo for your message; I could not have said it better myself or anybody else for that matter.
Prior to his deployment to combat duty in Vietnam, McCain crashed 2 to 4 jets, (estimates vary and U.S. Naval Air Mishap records are nearly totally redacted) all of which was found to be caused by "pilot error/cockpit error". During one of these incidents, McCain's jet collided with power lines. Even the lowest estimate of John's "Air Mishaps" count, would have cost another pilot his wings. John kept his Aviator Wings but did lose command of his flight squadron due to his "reckless nature" just prior to its call to duty in Vietnam.
McCain, John III; suffers from severe, traumatic disabling P.T.S.D. and is rated by the Veterans Administration as Totally & Permanently Disabled, with a 100% Service Connection. He began to draw VA Disability Compensation after leaving the Navy in April of 1981. Amongst his 17/18 medals, ribbons etc., are; 1 Silver Star, 1 Legion of Merit, 1 Distinguished Flying Cross, 1 Bronze Star and 1 Navy Commendation Medal - all awarded either prior to, during or after his confinement as a Prisoner of War.
No question of his love of country - no doubt at all. It is his mental capacity and his longtime suffering with P.T.S.D. that bothers me. Yes, the many cancers etc., are troublesome also. However; the more I see of my BCV and Brother-In-Arms - the more I see his mental state diminish.
I suffer the exact same illness as John (P.T.S.D)and I know it when I see it. The anger, nervousness, awkward uneasiness in one-on-one situations, his public display of spousal abuse to his reckless gambling; the list goes on. John needs treatment not votes. I expect him very soon, to be in need of hospice care. It is a shame that we will witness his remaining years as he forever spirals away from the once noble Warrior he was; to the now "pimped whore" puppet of the Bush/Cheney Cartel.
My vote is for Barack Hussein Obama - HOOYAH!
Combat Veterans For Obama
Anyone checked Obama's records that deep?
If McCain released his medical records, and might be medical monitoring like Oridion medical company, and than all 681 doctors will sign more stuff.
NOW, you really think all that political stuff involved with medical doctors? I mean... Waddup doc?