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on TV. Take action and boycott FOX and its advertisers! Take action and email your Congressional Representatives, join Democrats.com,
Join VoteVets.org, etc. Whatever you do, make it an action with some power behind it! Whining about FOX and other Neo-Conservatives criminal behaviors does little, your emails and votes have an impact!! - Genuinely, Dale Leisenring
There's a reason it's called the LEFT WING, you guys aren't RIGHT.
Yes, we see it on Fox News -- duh.
Don't forget that O'Reilly's viewers are subsidizing The Daily Show and The Colbert Report, too! Please stick with fighting Fox the old-fashioned way: by showing again and again that they're a pack of lying neo-fascists douchebags.
The second seemingly having nothing to do with “a la carte” cable is Fox being hypocritical when discussing the “moral decline” while showing “scandalous” images and clips and also being partly responsible for that decline. I mean come on what do we expect from Fox? The only thing that makes sense is to continue to show people how biased and hypocritical they really are and attempt to force Fox into getting back to real journalism.
Thanks, Scott
And, hey...good luck getting a la carte cable!! Too darn funny. Who are you irrelevant goofballs?
Doesn't matter because, well...uh...YOU'RE IRRELEVANT. hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Thanks for the laffs.
We are a self government. In a self government we relie on news to make informed decisions about the future of the country. Can we do that if we are given half truths and lies? No we can't. not to mention the conflicts of interest (Ailes running a rudy campaign, getting paid by big oil and drug).
Bring back the fairness doctrine. The right-wing attack machien then fails. Not because they are silenced. But because they will have someone there to tell the listeners that these propogandsits for profit are flat out lying for profit.
There time is almost up. Thank you Robert for doign the tough work. I can name 20 "leftistS" silenced or fired due to the right. Who on the right has been fired or silenced? Why can we not reciprate? The gop may make the all the rules. But do they then have to abide by the rules they create? Greenwald is trying to hold them to their rules. If we stand by and do nothing we are slaves to fascism. One way street. Thank you for showing fox and rush, what they do si not ok
so what's it say on your resume?
or is it your full time paying job scouring the internet and gleaning video clips you allege supports your fringe ideology.
all that would be interesting here is...
who signs your check?
There's Fox News, for fair.
For balance there's the hate-America hate-Bush hate-the-military totally left-biased mainstream media, MSNBC and CNN, Bill Maher, Rosie O, David Letterman, Michael Moore, Sean Penn, ad infinitum, ad nauseum.
Seems fair enough to me. Vote with your remote and $$$.
psssssssssstttt.........who's got the ratings, huh???
Read it and weep!
My concern is that unbundling will not save us money, and may not get rid of Fox News, but may drive out niche channels I do happen to like, such as the Independent Film Channel (IFC) and Sundance. Channels that cater primarily to women or gays such as Oxygen and Logo may also not survive in an a la carte cable world.
If we support a la carte to attack Fox News may be cutting off our nose to spite our face.
Option B: write your cable company and complain about Fox News. Ask them to pull it from the basic service.
fox Noise is on but only to be able to verify the crap that they spew out into the air which is now even more polluted. I can't believe that these idiots go home at night and sit down with family or friends and are actually the same people that you see on tv. This is all just a joke. Right? These people are paid to be this stupid on tv ane thats it, right? When you see them on the street over the weekend they are normal.???? NNNaahhhhh. Fox is full of jerks and thats that.
Will shove the freakin war machine of imperialism down our throats yet I among many exspouse to restore the Constituition of checks and balances to what it was and get out of the business of nation building and take care of the citzens here and not the entire rest of the world or UN which is a digrace like the oil for food scandal as is our monetary policies or the Federal Reserve, it just keeps printing money out of thin air, and will cause China and India to own this county, like every other asset to where it leads us towards a second or God for bid, third world status.
People" Smell the Coffee and wake the hell up"
Thanks.
fox Noise is on but only to be able to verify the crap that they spew out into the air which is now even more polluted. I can't believe that these idiots go home at night and sit down with family or friends and are actually the same people that you see on tv. This is all just a joke. Right? These people are paid to be this stupid on tv ane thats it, right? When you see them on the street over the weekend they are normal.???? NNNaahhhhh. Fox is full of jerks and thats that.
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Real funny. It would be funny. It would be a joke if my brothers and sisters weren't dying everyday. If ALL our resources weren't being sucked dry. Where is this money going? All these trillions? It went from a surplus of the nation, to all that money going to republcain gop contracts. If this is a gmae, I'm not laughing.
And to the gop bobbleheads that come here to lie spin and propogate like their avatars; get a life. Your masters are done. Conflict of interest. They are not news. What will you do without your avatars? You will have to think for yourselves. I know tha tis a scary concept dittoheads. But it's for your beneifit. If you like lies fascists and propogaters that's your business. But you should get a shrink if that's the case. really. You are funny to me. Us "liberals" do not fear you anymore. Now that our voice can get out. You silenced it for a few years and got us scared. CAn we recipracate, gop? Yes we can. Stop crying and whining. Your avatars have been silencing the left for years now. Ward churchhill, the dixie chicks, rosie, tome hanks, danny glover, sean penn, tim robbins teachers judges and on on on on. Why can we not recipracate? The gop has been silencing the left ofr years. If you don't want to play those rules I have a suggestion. STOP ATTACKING AND SILENCING LIBERALS. I doubt the right will stop their attack on america. So I will not stop my attack on them. Don't start what you can't finish, gop
here's my problem. i'm sick of having queers shoved in my face on EVERY tv station. It's a blatant attempt by the media to brainwash me into accepting homosexuality as "the norm". bet it works for you, huh? get turned on when you see two girls kissing (YUK!!!!)
thinking about kissing one of your guy friends? hope you get your lights punched out.
so, where's the petition I can sign block the queers, huh? to hell with Will & Grace, Bravo and their Queer Eye and HGTV!!!
and what about those sexy sluts on MTV, huh??? sex sells music? to whore-moan-al little boys like you. where's the petiton, bud?
Seconded heartily.
Having a television is far from a necessity.
BTW this is something of a red herring concerning a la carte, which I would like to see. But as the megacorporations that control the content on 98% of the TV have an agenda to make money at any cost to society overall, there's little chance this will change. It will be interesting to see how they take control of the internet as a means of content distribution. THAT's what net neutrality is really about, btw.
Who wouldn't want to associate their product with an orgasm?
To be pushing A la carte cable as a means to end Fox News is dopey. I'm sorry. I said it. If people watch it as part of their cable, and they buy a chinese menu style package from the cable company, don't you think that the red-tards are gonna pick the Fox box in the news column? Don't you think the horn dogs are gonna take the news with the most skin (never mind the sadness of people watching news for rocks offing).
A La Carte Cable is probably the end of a lot of things we like. Like BET. And E!. And Fox Sports (well, they're not better than the so-called Worldwide leader, but they're not really worse, either). And CSPAN2. And public access (if you haven't spent a Friday Night watching public access until 2 AM, you have no idea what I'm talking about... it's a great friday night in a big city like LA or New York). A La Carte sections the market and gives us less commonality to talk about.
Last thing. I dunno who these economists who suggest ALC pricing will lower prices are. When I did my MBA, our brilliant Managerial Economics professor (Martin Cripps, Bach, Master, PhD, econ, London School) suggested that you get people to buy stuff they aren't going to buy for a lower total price by bundling. When you break out the pieces, prices go up. Hell, when you get that catalog for the sausage company this winter, you can see A La Carte pricing versus bundles. Now, you might save by getting fewer channels. But, if you watch ESPN, be aware that it's the most expensive channel for a cable operator to carry, so it's going to be very expensive for you to carry. With a rightly unregulated pricing scheme, the stuff that's in demand will be priced appropriately, and, while you won't get Fox News because you're all right thinking people, you might get stuck with the same bill and fewer channels.
The only real option for a real American is what Real Americans have been doing all along. Steal cable and don't watch Fox News. It's the American way, along with not voting.
This is a stupid, wrongheaded campaign. It will only come back to bite you.
Also, why is it that you are unable to solicit new channels of content without demanding that old channels be abolished? Is it that you are afraid that you couldn't compete in an open market? To be sure - CNN and MSNBC are as far left as Fox is to the right. By my count that's 2-to-1. And I saw that exact same Paris Hilton commercial on both of those channels! So what's your complaint exactly?
Admit it - you hate free speech because it means that people are allowed to offer thoughts and opinions that disagree with your own. Free speech is about ALL points of view, not just your own. For instance, I think you are an ass hat, but I still support your right to write whatever you choose. I *do not* support your opinions though. But I can do that, because I believe in truly free speech!
Great plan, morons.
Something I would rather have happen. It seems as if everyone else and their brother is milking the war as much as possible.
Also, some of the clips came from paid programming advertisements. Just with that, all the credibility went down the drain.
As for the a la carte idea to lower cable fees, I am against it.
We all watch cable channels that cater to a small segment of the population-Golf channel-Court TV-C-Span. I do not want the trolls on this site to lose their favorite channel even if it is Faux.
I just block it on my TV on my end and laugh at the people who think it is a News channel.
Secondly, FOX attempts to attract audiences through titillation by using footage of scantily clad females who have NOTHING to do with the story!
Enough said.
Free thinker is right on--you wish to supress speach on the right, not the left--freedom of peach in the 1st person only.
There is a word for you Cliff--HYPOCRITE!
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So.. let's get this straight.
FOX can show tits and ass, yet moralize against showing tits and ass. "Here! look at this DISGUSTING PORN!! Aren't her huge, round tits just ABHORRENT?" This is basically what Fox is doing.
You want to call Cliff a hypocrite? Fox is the biggest one of all. Is that what Republicans do..? Do they take out the most vivid porn, and watch it all the way through, but all the time moralizing against it? "Oh, look at the size of that! As Jeeeezus is my witness, he should be nailed to the cross for that.. oh my lord, look at what he's doing with it now! How can she do that? This is immoral!"
And all this, while Right-Wing Christian groups want to BAN THE SALE OF PLAYBOY TO OUR TROOPS IN IRAQ. So it's cool that they get shot, but they cannot relax from the shell shock with some T&A;?
So, before calling Cliff a Hypocrite, look in the goddamn mirror, people.
BY THE WAY - for all your Fox News Righties out there. The moment that Democrats get elected, and the ratings are HIGHER for pro-Democrat and anti-republican slanted news.... Fox WILL shift to bashing Republicans. You will see stories about how messed in the head Bush Jr. was. Mark these words, Fox lovers.
i could swear every single point made here by posters who seem to hate this article are the same exact arguments i hear on fox?
I mean down to the rhetoric and name calling..
It's sad to see the blind hatred and parroting of fox lineup's one liners, do you people actually ever stop to think about what is being told to you?
Seriously.. maybe it is true, maybe it isn't.. is it worth it to you to search for opposing opinions that run counter to Fox news just to see if Fox is telling the truth or not?
There are a lot of independent WORLD news organizations.. look around, see for yourself.. it's possible Fox isn't as fair as you might think.. but don't take my word for it find out for yourself... what's to lose?
Look for facts that can be verified, not a talking memo/point/one liner.. please, for the sake of the country.
Faux has no liberals with their own show. Other news channels hard news or business shows are just that and not a platform for right-wing nut jobs like on Faux. If you cannot tell the difference you are not paying attention, or you are a moron.
Repugs-No ideas, nothing but fear!!!!!
Fact is, that while they are biased, and in O'Reilly's case, lousy human beings, of the images shown, only about 30% were actually explicit. You see worse on MTV, why is it such a big deal when Fox does it? I hate Fox as much as any self-respecting human with an IQ that reaches double figures, but this is a cheap shot, a poorly constructed and badly thought through criticism.
If you have not seen this segment from the 11/10 Fox NFL Sunday program you should watch.
http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-us&brand...
Jimmie Kimmel with Pacman Jones (suspended from the NFL for numerous law and league violations) on the phone from a set made to look like a strip club with two scantily clad babes, raining US currency, and Jones announcing this Sunday's picks . Fox, the self-appointed guardian of decency, family values and lookout for the war on Christmas. Frankly, I could not believe my eyes. You have to wander what Howie, Bradshaw and the rest really thought about the segment. But one has to remember who owns that network. Culture Wars - what a laugh!
Or Bare and Phallused?
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Pamela, let's be clear about what BNF is "asking" (I prefer the term "inviting") you to do.
The post on this page, by cliffshecter, doesn't tell, ask, or even invite action of any sort. You can only be refering to the link to a petition asking the FCC to require cable providers to unbundle their channels; which would allow you to not pay for the ones you disapprove of. (doesn't apply to me- I don't have an idiot box)
If you would view not paying for those channels as censorship of some sort, that's your call. But unbundling would follow the Free Market Ethic, to not pay good money for something you don't like.
What Faux's gratuitous sex is all about is keeping their viewership. It's in the book: to keep your "programmees" from using actual brain cells while watching, you continually appeal to their very basest levels of response (Jaron, this is for you too).
It's all very scientific, thanks to Joseph Goebels and fifty years of Madison Avenue. I know people who watch Faux just for this sort of stuff, and then stay for the propaganda. In Faux's case, it's also a fight for life, because their advertizers will bail if people quit watching.
Which is why you are being invited (by me) to go sign the petition.
you are all insane. anyone who likes fox is more than likely a christian, catholic, claims to have "values", has to control what goes on in everyone else's bedroom and make everyone feel guilty while you are probably the one indulging your sick perverted mind under the guise of "fox news."
you are all the sick old white men that love to watch fox news anyway, i can see why you want it to continue!
FUCKIN PERVERTS. our children are being exposed to this.
Faux and the neocons or foxattacks.
If ya don't like Fox News, and the " So Called Porn "..then go watch Cops, or CSI, or MTV...Listen to the Violent Rap Music, or See People with there Head Blown apart, or a Cop, beating a Person for trying to Resist the type of arest that was being made on them..To Me thats all Very Offensive !!!..But im not going to scream about how this is Wrong to show..some things to me are wrong, some not..I CHOOSE THAT. !
if I don't like it, I don't watch it..I don't need to see it to know it's there...I have children in this home, and I Refuse to have Rap music in this house, as well as Violent TV viewed by the kids..and I Teach them Values, and right from wrong. All I can hope for, is they retain those values as they grow up..because when there on there Own...then there on there Own..the make there own choices, Like to CHANGE THE CHANNEL if they don't like whats on..its not up to me to decide for them at that age, the same as it's not up to you, or anyone to decide what I watch, or Don't watch, Were all adults, and it's to late to have someone teach us the Values we should already have by now...so my point here is..
I Will Decide, and no one has the right to decide for me, Like the seat belt Law..I Don't wear mine, it's my choice, and my right to decide if I will wear it..and I choose Not to.
So If I watch FOX, or Wear my seat Belt, or Listen to Rap, Watch the Playboy channel, or watch Real porn..My Choice, My Life.
and FOx has the Full American Freedom to show what they want, and how they want..and you have the Right to NOT WATCH IT!..don't interfere with my Rights, and what I do in My home.
There is a Porn shop here in the town I live in, and there is of course a road passing this shop, I don't try to have the road removed !!..I just don't go in the store, if I want to protest it.
and Like WalMart..I refuse to shop there..there are plenty of home town small buisness places here to get what I need.
If ya Don't like a Dodge, buy a Chevy, or Ford..
Don't try to Put Dodge out of Buisness because ya don't like what they make.
they are only one of your choices in life..Feel Lucky you have a Choice.
so have a Decent Life, Its up to you, and only you.
You Have Plenty of Channels to Choose from.
find one ya Like, and leave the other people alone with there choices, because I REALY DON"T CARE What you watch,thats your choice, and you will not stop me from watching what I want..It's My Choice
so have a Decent Life, Its up to you, and only you.
Rick
I fully support embarassing Fox by spreading that video, though. At least then the goal can be to get them to stop condemning "liberals" for supposed "depravity".
withhold advertising because of sex violates my principles, specificity that sex should be open and public, that it is a natural part of existence; our primary reason for existence (I don't believe
in any religious cloud people reasons for existence), and that there is not enough gratuitous sex on television. As such, I can not ask
them to withhold add dollars for that reason, especially when there ARE real reasons to withhold said add dollars, such as the FACT that
they do not report news, rather opinions, often with no factual evidence to back it, no fact finding, no investigation at all.
In the back room, limo, public restrooms and anywhere the media can't find them.
The republicans are finally showing americans their true colors.
If I were to start complaining about what I have to pay for with my cable service, it would be all those stupid sports channels! AND Faux News - but because of their hypocrisy and hate-filled right-wing slant, not their use of gratuitous sexy images.
If you had come at it simply from the point that they were being hypocritical, I would be all for this.
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/showbiz/2007/1...
CNN is going with sex, too. They show naked Paris Hilton, painted in gold, and had to have shown her at least a dozen times AND they showed a clip of her tape (i think). They were on the subject so WHY NOT also bring up Pam Anderson for a few breast shots and the beginning of her sex tape.
Not only that, but the CNN host was like..."Great point, but we're running out of time and I have to get to this next add..."
I also find it weird that many feel captalism related only to big business....How about your Moviestars, tv celebrities , sport celebrities. they make more than maany of the captalists. Wake up and smell the roses...
Keep tuning into FOX, you're free to watch whatever you want. But, the thing that gets me is that people are too stupid/lazy to do their own fact checking and buy into everything the media tells them.
Maybe instead of trying to support a crooked news corporation on a web forum, try picking up a book once in a while. Not everything has to be so black or white, right or left - it is possible to find a middle ground. But that's only possible for people with atleast a half-brain, and Bob, I'm not so sure you fit into that category.
I don't mean to offend previous commenters, but in a truly respectful way, I would suggest checking out the BBC. Nothings perfect, but I stand by it as an example of a large news organization with a sincere ethic for balanced journalism.
Here's a link:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/
Thanks,
-Ben
FOX NEWS SMUT. Yep, that's what Faux News is!!
I trust that God will deal with you all accordingly.I think Fox should get some new faces.
Peace Love Justice
Rev Owen , Brooklyn NY
p.s youz owe me a rock-- i boughtz dat last dub biooootch.
Here we go again, dumb liberals. So its wrong if fox shows some racy images,
buuuuuutttt......
its quite ok for liberals to have rampant sex, cheer peta commercials that promote underage sex, allow unconditional abortions, and are up in arms every time the FCC trys to bleep out "crap"
GIVE ME A BREAK YOU STUPID LIBERAL HIPPIES!
than showing it themselves
think you fucking dumb ass, think before you talk.
Bad enough it's the media arm of the gop.